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Old 11-19-2013, 03:14 PM   #706
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Sounds like BaseCamp was still in edit mode when you uploaded the first route and didn't save the properties of the route when you first uploaded it. That would be my first guess.

I would click on another list within BaseCamp to give that item focus and then back to that route or back to the route that you had just edited and then upload it to the device. Then see if the incident is repeatable.
Very interesting thought. I may do that kind of experiment sometime. Thanks for the idea.
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:24 AM   #707
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So overall I came to the understanding that a Nav 5 should be part of the stable. Especially for the larger screen with more pixels. However, I didn't hear much about issues with the MP3/Audio function. My Nav IV is a poor performer. MP3/Nav experiences hiccups with pairing and with the sound. I use two different BT adapters and get the same stupid behaviour from the unit. Usually the "fun" start after half an hour of music with increasing interrupts until the audio simply stops. Switching the unit off/on helps for a while. I do not believe that it is just the SD card (used several types/several speeds) or the way the files are named after decreasing the bit rate with a converter. In the end it is a lot of trouble to get something such as basic as playing MP3's to work. I don't want to go through this ever again and will not accept crappy functionality from a zillion euro navigation device. Especially when it pretends to offer more functionality than many other, cheaper devices lacking this.
I have cut my losses and use it for navigation only (without voice prompts). The rest goes through an ipod/iphone remote. There is even a plus side of this; you don't have to switch pages from the Map view to Mediaplayer to skip music or search files. Not a big thing, but it is an extra distraction on top of listening to music in the first place.

So to finish my final plea is that I will install a Nav IV mount on my R80, beside already having a mount on my LC. This way I can use one unit on two bikes. In the mean time I will await the first few software updates of the Nav 5 and seriously hope to hear what owners of the new unit have to say on the (improved?) functionality in terms of Apps and Music performance. Anyone hit a snag yet with high bitrates 192+ or long file names ????? Anyone ??? Come out, come out, wherever you are!
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Old 11-20-2013, 04:01 AM   #708
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Nav5 not yet available in Belgium but I'm intending to get one to replace the crap Mp3 functionality of the Nav4...


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Hi,
So overall I came to the understanding that a Nav 5 should be part of the stable. Especially for the larger screen with more pixels. However, I didn't hear much about issues with the MP3/Audio function. My Nav IV is a poor performer. MP3/Nav experiences hiccups with pairing and with the sound. I use two different BT adapters and get the same stupid behaviour from the unit. Usually the "fun" start after half an hour of music with increasing interrupts until the audio simply stops. Switching the unit off/on helps for a while. I do not believe that it is just the SD card (used several types/several speeds) or the way the files are named after decreasing the bit rate with a converter. In the end it is a lot of trouble to get something such as basic as playing MP3's to work. I don't want to go through this ever again and will not accept crappy functionality from a zillion euro navigation device. Especially when it pretends to offer more functionality than many other, cheaper devices lacking this.
I have cut my losses and use it for navigation only (without voice prompts). The rest goes through an ipod/iphone remote. There is even a plus side of this; you don't have to switch pages from the Map view to Mediaplayer to skip music or search files. Not a big thing, but it is an extra distraction on top of listening to music in the first place.

So to finish my final plea is that I will install a Nav IV mount on my R80, beside already having a mount on my LC. This way I can use one unit on two bikes. In the mean time I will await the first few software updates of the Nav 5 and seriously hope to hear what owners of the new unit have to say on the (improved?) functionality in terms of Apps and Music performance. Anyone hit a snag yet with high bitrates 192+ or long file names ????? Anyone ??? Come out, come out, wherever you are!
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Old 11-20-2013, 05:58 AM   #709
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Liking mine thus far (all of one hour lol) and need to spend more time with it. I find the integration with the motorcycle (brain) to be one of its best features....pretty cool.

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Old 11-20-2013, 06:43 AM   #710
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Nav5 not yet available in Belgium but I'm intending to get one to replace the crap Mp3 functionality of the Nav4...
Yes it is 812. I'll probably end up buying one in germany for around 600.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:48 AM   #711
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693,- Euro in NL, but this is for the LC and K1600. (No mount required).
But still I'm not convinced yet.... Need more info on the mediaplayer (issues, if any).
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:56 AM   #712
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However, I didn't hear much about issues with the MP3/Audio function. My Nav IV is a poor performer. MP3/Nav experiences hiccups with pairing and with the sound. I use two different BT adapters and get the same stupid behaviour from the unit. Usually the "fun" start after half an hour of music with increasing interrupts until the audio simply stops. Switching the unit off/on helps for a while.
I had the same problem with my Nav-IV and was eager to replace it with the Nav-V knowing that if it exhibited the same problems I would quickly return it for a refund.
I've had the Nav-V since introduction with nearly 4k miles on it and have not had any MP3 or BT issues, it is a joy to use in comparison to the Nav-IV which was a waste of money.
My only small gripe wit hthe V is that even though the screen is much improved I still wish that it was brighter, although it is very usable and nice for the most part.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:06 AM   #713
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I had the same problem with my Nav-IV and was eager to replace it with the Nav-V knowing that if it exhibited the same problems I would quickly return it for a refund.
I've had the Nav-V since introduction with nearly 4k miles on it and have not had any MP3 or BT issues, it is a joy to use in comparison to the Nav-IV which was a waste of money.
My only small gripe wit hthe V is that even though the screen is much improved I still wish that it was brighter, although it is very usable and nice for the most part.
Have you experimented with the different map "themes"? Although they do not change the screen brightness, I find that some are easier for my aging eyes to see than others. Currently using "Ostereich".
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:19 AM   #714
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Have you experimented with the different map "themes"? Although they do not change the screen brightness, I find that some are easier for my aging eyes to see than others. Currently using "Ostereich".

Other than just thumbing through the various screens while fiddling with the unit I have not used anything other than the default Garmin screen.
I have the Nav-V on my desk here and have switched it over to Ostereich, I'll see how it works.
I spent most of the time with the 16 segment My Motorcycle page up for its entertainment value.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:25 AM   #715
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I had the same problem with my Nav-IV............
I've had the Nav-V since introduction with nearly 4k miles on it and have not had any MP3 or BT issues, it is a joy to use in comparison to the Nav-IV which was a waste of money............
Many thanks for your valuable input. Starting to save for the V early 2014
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Old 11-20-2013, 11:01 AM   #716
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Other than just thumbing through the various screens while fiddling with the unit I have not used anything other than the default Garmin screen.
I have the Nav-V on my desk here and have switched it over to Ostereich, I'll see how it works.
I spent most of the time with the 16 segment My Motorcycle page up for its entertainment value.
I like "track up", 2D map view, no 3D shading, and the Ostereich or maybe one of the other themes. I find that the better contrast between the roads and the rest of the terrain allows me to visually grasp what I am seeing faster.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:53 PM   #717
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I like "track up", 2D map view, no 3D shading, and the Ostereich or maybe one of the other themes. I find that the better contrast between the roads and the rest of the terrain allows me to visually grasp what I am seeing faster.
Not sure if it also Works this way on the Navigator V (I hope to have it tomorrow) but, in my car Garmin device, wich has similar features, I can also keep the 3D view but avoid the shading wich, sometimes, is disturbing. Specially when riding slowly through a road on the shaded side of a mountain.

I just go to Maps and Vehicle / My Maps and uncheck the DEM map, wich is the one that adds the shading effect in order to simulate the 3D terrain
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:59 PM   #718
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Recently I picked up a used GS with a Nav IV mount on it. When I ask the dealer if I could buy a Nav IV unit he said that I could not and also I could not mount a Nav V unit on my Nav IV mount.

Instead he sold me an older Zumo that he had in his used equipment draw.

When mounted behind the windshield is the Zumo water proof enough such that I can be used in the rain?
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Old 11-20-2013, 02:20 PM   #719
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Recently I picked up a used GS with a Nav IV mount on it. When I ask the dealer if I could buy a Nav IV unit he said that I could not and also I could not mount a Nav V unit on my Nav IV mount.

Instead he sold me an older Zumo that he had in his used equipment draw.

When mounted behind the windshield is the Zumo water proof enough such that I can be used in the rain?
Any Zumo unit is as waterproof as any similar Navigaor unit as the Navigator units are, in fact, Garmin zumo devices with a different look and few software differences. E.g., the Navigator IV is just a Zumo 660 with few cosmetic changes
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Old 11-20-2013, 03:05 PM   #720
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I like "track up", 2D map view, no 3D shading, and the Ostereich or maybe one of the other themes. I find that the better contrast between the roads and the rest of the terrain allows me to visually grasp what I am seeing faster.

I always run 2D with Track Up, it just seems more intuitive and less complicated, it should be the default if you ask me.



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Recently I picked up a used GS with a Nav IV mount on it. When I ask the dealer if I could buy a Nav IV unit he said that I could not and also I could not mount a Nav V unit on my Nav IV mount.

Instead he sold me an older Zumo that he had in his used equipment draw.

When mounted behind the windshield is the Zumo water proof enough such that I can be used in the rain?
Your dealer's full of beans (who'd of thunk).

Ebay's littered with Nav-IV's and the Nav-V will fit the IV's mount it's just a little tight.

Get your money back for the Zumo and get a V, you'll like it as long as it doesn't put you in the poor house.
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