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Old 11-23-2013, 02:28 PM   #1351
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Old 11-23-2013, 05:40 PM   #1352
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Don't assume other vehicles are going to behave in a way that is intelligent, predictable, or which takes you into account.

It is not possible to overestimate how bad a car driver can be. What follows are things I have personally experienced riding with one young woman (who I refuse to ride with any more) On every trip she takes, she:

a) runs all stop signs [claims she does not see them];

b) pulls out right in front of oncoming traffic when leaving a parking lot [believes she always has the right of way];

c) speeds....she drives a BMW 335xi coupe at crazy speeds: 60-65 through a small town downtown, 60 on residential streets with 30-35mph speed limits;

d) believes that "right on red" means that you don't have to stop and look before you turn, that you can just zoom through it and other drivers have to make way for you;

e) refuses to wear glasses even though she is supposed to wear them when driving [purely vanity...and is willing to risk her own and everyone else's life because of it].

She has been ticketed, and had one accident so far but nothing's changed. The cops were unfair. The accident was the other guy's fault, etc etc. She will never change.....unless, maybe, she kills someone.

She is the worst driver I've ever been with, and I'm sure she is not alone. I've ridden with two others who were pretty good but who had a bad habit of looking at you when talking....and so we would veer into the right hand lane or onto the shoulder. At speed. Anywhere. From the left lane of the freeway to the shoulder in a couple of seconds...I would be lunging for the wheel.

These people are out there. They are a menace and they will kill you without even trying, given half a chance. I recommend training yourself to never assume a car driver is a good driver or to use your own driving skill as the basis for your estimate of others' driving skill....unless you are an horrific driver...then go right ahead.
Shoot, that just sounds like the standard BMW driver in the US.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:45 PM   #1353
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This is good! At intersections I try to make eye contact with the driver if it is safe and possible. You can predict a lot of their moves that way!
Bad BAD idea! ALWAYS watch their wheels. Wheels never tell anything but what actually IS.

NEVER count on the eye contact myth. They will look right at you and right through you.
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Old 11-23-2013, 06:52 PM   #1354
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Bad BAD idea! ALWAYS watch their wheels. Wheels never tell anything but what actually IS.

NEVER count on the eye contact myth. They will look right at you and right through you.
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Old 11-23-2013, 08:58 PM   #1355
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Your right, some will look right through you, but in most instances they will see you
Why take the risk?

I can't think of a single time when making eye contact has been a benefit to my safety while riding.

I can think of many when they looked right at me and pulled out or turned in front of me anyway.

There is NOTHING about SIPDE (not "SPIDE") that ever includes eye contact with other road users.

SIPDE simply means to Scan, Identify, Predict, Decide and Execute.

There is NEVER a mention of making eye contact.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:32 PM   #1356
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This is a valuable reference thread for new riders, please don't dilute it with petty bickering.
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Old 11-23-2013, 11:34 PM   #1357
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This is a valuable reference thread for new riders, please don't dilute it with petty bickering.
Yeh time for some
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Old 11-24-2013, 12:09 PM   #1358
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This is a valuable reference thread for new riders, please don't dilute it with petty bickering.
You're right. I won't post anything and I'll delete my post. I might even delete myself.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:13 PM   #1359
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Old 11-24-2013, 03:51 PM   #1360
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:35 PM   #1361
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lol.... good music.

/thread hijack

I've found that a valuable 'tell' of many drivers is head movement. Many or most drivers will turn their head to look in the mirror or over their shoulder whtn contemplating changing lanes. Noticing this has been helpful many times. If you're on the left of a big rig, you can see them do it in their mirrors.


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Old 11-24-2013, 07:45 PM   #1362
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lol.... good music.

/thread hijack

I've found that a valuable 'tell' of many drivers is head movement. Many or most drivers will turn their head to look in the mirror or over their shoulder whtn contemplating changing lanes. Noticing this has been helpful many times. If you're on the left of a big rig, you can see them do it in their mirrors.


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Yep and at the same time they will edge across the lane
In the direction of their next change of direction.
Watch those front wheels for movement
Not the wheels go round and a round.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:47 PM   #1363
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:06 AM   #1364
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Laugh Best advice..

The best advice given to me by a 70yo biker on the first ride I ever took is this:

Forget ABS, forget traction control... The BEST safety device, is a careful man.

I've been riding with this in mind for years, and its really all there is too it for me.

edit: spelling

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Old 11-26-2013, 11:01 AM   #1365
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