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Old 01-05-2014, 08:20 PM   #856
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From Cyril Depres Facebook Page

Cyril Despres

“When your alarm clock goes off at 02.40 in the morning you know the Dakar has really started! And in true Dakar tradition that was followed by 404 kilometres of liaison, before we got to the 180 kilometre special. Opening the piste it took me a while to find my pace and then about 50 kilometres from the end, coming out of a canyon, I saw a dust trail behind me and thought to myself, ‘ah yes, Marc is back’ and accelerated a little. In the great scheme of things the finishing position isn’t of much importance, but it is good to know that I’m up to speed and overall it was a good day for myself and my team, on our first Dakar special together.”

Michael Metge

“To be really honest I was a little bit nervous this morning sitting on the start line waiting to be flagged away. Happily I quickly settled down and not long after that really start to enjoy myself over the fast, twisty tracks. Hats off to ‘The Boss’, he really knows how to set up a motorcycle. I think in general we tend to ride with the suspension too firm, but with Cyril’s settings the bike felt both comfortable and safe. In the end I got past three riders and am pretty happy with how the whole day turned out.”
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:25 PM   #857
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Don't place any trust in the stage maps ASO provides. They are BS. The liaisons are pretty close, but not the SS.

Check out my Stage 1 overlay of their map with red line, and my CORRECT map with blue line. The red and blue should be the same, but they are not even close. Why? Because ASO doesn't want anyone to use their map to find where the course goes.

The course is supposed to be secret. The dark force is need to map the actual course. Or, use the roadbook and draw the course meter by meter as you match the roadbook to Google Earth imagery. And even that can be a challenge because you first have to find the actual start point (DSS).

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Old 01-05-2014, 08:28 PM   #858
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Now I need some clever guys to answer this question: What are the daclasses in the columns 3-8?

Group is yellow (1 for professional) or white (2 for amateur), the classes are numbered and then split out in the subsequent columns.

Stand to correction here but I think "M" is for Malle Moto, "F" is for Female rider, and "1" is for production class?
What are the other class numbers?
Neil, from the PDF's you posted I saw at the bottom:

Groupes/Groups
G1 > A.S.O. Elite Riders - 0 to 450 cc.
G2.1 > Super Production 0 to 450 cm3.
G2.2 > Marathon 0 to 450 cm3.

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M > Malles Moto
F > Feminin (Female)
1 > Challenge 1ère Fois (First Timers)

Just two females in the Rally
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:45 PM   #859
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Just outstanding work everyone. Thank you.

Go Sam
Go Ben
Go Shane..!
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Old 01-05-2014, 08:48 PM   #860
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Not too sure if Metge is that happy how things worked out now? - does that 41 mins still stand - there is conflicting data, although todays start has him at 114 on the overall WPS at + 45.33 so it looks like it does?
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:06 PM   #861
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Ned can you remember how many KM you did in these dunes? It had to be about 30km if I recall?
11k's kilometer 265 to 276
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:29 PM   #862
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Come on Neal, get Sam on your list, he's still only a young lad and needs all the promoting he can get

He has "family" on here so that should be good enough
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:52 PM   #863
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Can I ask a really dumb question. Several actually.

What do the riders eat? Do they all meet up in the desert and sit down to a feast and then say "Tally Ho chaps lets race again"?

Or do they eat on the run? How ? Power bars for breakfast and lunch?

Do they also use a catheter to piss?

How many water refills do they go through? Where do they get the water from?

(I know in ironman Tri I used to just piss in my riding gear/shoes but at least there are aid stations with water to wash the yellow off)
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Old 01-05-2014, 09:58 PM   #864
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I dont have dakar experience but mine is thusly:

Breakfast and dinner in the bivouac feed trough. SHow a wristband, get a fork. I've been known to figure out a place to stuff 5000 calories a day went back for thirds practiaclly every time.

Carry 3L on you, and 3L on the bike for emergency. Pee breaks during Liaison, or on stage, if you just gotta. Unless youre in it for the money, then dont stop during a special- you work it out from there

Maybe take a energy dense lunchymunchy in a pocket. gels, cliff bars, twizzlers.

Tally ho chaps
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:02 PM   #865
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3l for 8 hours on the bike???

They'd need a liter an hour wouldn't they ?
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:05 PM   #866
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3l for 8 hours on the bike???

They'd need a liter an hour wouldn't they ?
Hydrate like a moose the other 16. Its sometimes possible to meet up with service crews that will resupply water bladders. I dont know how it works in this event.
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:18 PM   #867
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3l for 8 hours on the bike???

They'd need a liter an hour wouldn't they ?
Don't forget everything is available at the gas stations etc also
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:27 PM   #868
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Few and far between, and dodgy at best?

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Old 01-05-2014, 10:31 PM   #869
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Old 01-05-2014, 10:33 PM   #870
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Can I ask a really dumb question. Several actually.

What do the riders eat? Do they all meet up in the desert and sit down to a feast and then say "Tally Ho chaps lets race again"?

Or do they eat on the run? How ? Power bars for breakfast and lunch?

Do they also use a catheter to piss?

How many water refills do they go through? Where do they get the water from?

(I know in ironman Tri I used to just piss in my riding gear/shoes but at least there are aid stations with water to wash the yellow off)
If its yellow you ain't hydrated enough.

Camel back min 2 to 3 refills if not more . Refill when you refuel bike, at start of special etc. top up whenever you get a chance.

The hard thing is to regulate when you need a crap. And rally crap is different, it's compacted by the riding and devout of any nutrients after 7 days it can be rock hard. and we are talking about pooh
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