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Old 01-06-2014, 02:44 PM   #1771
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I was looking at that also...how far can someone slip behind and still have a chance at the podium? Suppose it depends if its one wild card up front (Bam Bam) or a group.

From years past it would seem 20 minutes ouot after a few days and your chances are next to none.

Hope Helder picks up the pace a bit...Coma, Bam Bam and others are attacking
My rule of thumb for the last few years is 10 minutes at rest day. With all the chaos that could happen, anyone within 20-30 minutes of the lead could still be a contender but it's highly unlikely. Especially with Marathon stages in the mix. After rest day anyone could potentially have a chance at the podiun if there are any issues at the front. The odds obviously decrease each day.

Aliens can make up three minutes out of desperation in the last 2-3 stages on each other, but until another alien comes up the ranks (or is passed the baton) there's not much chance once you get past that 5-10 minute point.

Speaking of Aliens: Can they get concussions?
I know the AMA has instituted concussion testing now for riders here in the states in several pro events. I wonder if the medical staff is looking to that for the ASO/FIM? Again, they would have to find out about it and get them to the tent...
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:47 PM   #1772
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And Grabbie!
That's Grabbo. He's a fellow citizen of the Banana Republic of Oz last I checked. 6th on SS and up to 9th overall it looks like. Looks to be staking his claim early. Let's hope not too early. Go Ben!!
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:48 PM   #1773
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Penalty to Carlton Kirby on Eurosport.

"and don't forget the other British riders, Jay Paul and Jamie Smith"


Errr Carlton I think you mean PAUL JAY!
LOL - but don't be too harsh on Carlton - he's the best Dakar commentator we've got (he is the only one but .........)
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:49 PM   #1774
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That's Grabbo. He's a citizen of the Banana Republic of Oz last I checked.
Not according to the ASO he isn't!
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:49 PM   #1775
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Mai Llinares on Twitter just said that Spanish TV reported Marc Coma might have to swap engines already!
Whaaaaat?

I cannot watch the teledeportes show live because of country blocks, it will be available some time later on... That is some serious shit there..

Caught a nice vstrom 1000 review at the end of the ES show, wonder how much that cost...
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:51 PM   #1776
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“It was an OK day until I got into the bivouac and discovered that the officials had given me a 41 minute penalty for supposedly arriving late at the bivouac yesterday evening – something I don’t understand at all as I came in at the same time as Cyril. Currently the organisers are looking at my GPS to check when I actually arrived and hopefully all that should be cleared up this evening. It kind of took the fun out the day…”
Interesting...so he said the ASO thought he was 41 minutes late into the bivouac. I still think it might be for speeding, but we will see.

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The F5irehose never sleeps... nor does it give a wakeup call, but it can keep you up all night....

First the Bivouac, then the the pre event, finally firehose -we might as well be competitors. Then I was caught up all weekend, and was behind on the pre dakar thread, then forgot to subscribe here... missed the official start.

I got lucky in that the US midwest has been pounded with cold temperatures and so my work (and much of the great lakes areas far as I can tell) has shut down. Not that I couldn't go in to work, but I have to catch up...

And this is just the first two days?!?!?!?
My speed reading lessons paid off.

Due to work (and my usual silent lurking self) I'll probably only be able to catch up in the evening from now on, so I'll depend on the hearty steadfast members of the F5irehose



I don't think I could show myself if I tried to take shortcuts. So I feel like a lurker, and the hump on my back on liason is usually water. Give me time penalties, missed waypoints, and I might be late to the Bivouac every night but don't count me out!

Hogwild, if I ever get a team set up, I will definitely call on you for logistics.

Now I need to pay my entry fees to Mischa and all the mods via T-shirt to keep the hose at full pressure.

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Great post Silentwolf. You'll just have to forgo sleep like the rest of us


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Penalty to Carlton Kirby on Eurosport.

"and don't forget the other British riders, Jay Paul and Jamie Smith"


Errr Carlton I think you mean PAUL JAY!
That one nearly caught me out too buts its the way they have his name on the posis.

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Awww... C'mon now Rob... I've seen you and a lotta blokes you know, chew panadien forte like they were tic tacs, and skulk off outta site of the medic tent, so as to avoid the doc's "thumbs down".

With all on the line (cost of a DAKAR campaign) it is amazing what some people will supress or disguise not to get the DNF on medical grounds...
True this. I walked on a fractured foot to show the FIM guy I was okay in Brazil. I'm not sure I was all tat convincing, because he just smiled at me knowingly and said, "Okay then, good luck for tomorrow".
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:54 PM   #1777
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Mai Llinares on Twitter just said that Spanish TV reported Marc Coma might have to swap engines already!
Is related to the stone/selector shaft problem he remidied during the stage (possible damage to gearbox) or have the motor (cylinder/valves) gone off song?


(goes off loooking... looking...)
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:54 PM   #1778
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Mai Llinares on Twitter just said that Spanish TV reported Marc Coma might have to swap engines already!
He did have a stone jammed in the chain/sprocket/engine case.
Maybe there is further damage.
Or are they playing tactics before marathon stage and hopping they'll force everybody's hand.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:56 PM   #1779
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LOL - but don't be too harsh on Carlton - he's the best Dakar commentator we've got (he is the only one but .........)
The only Eurosport English commentator right now, and I've always liked his commentary style.

France4 has been doing a good job so far and more bivy dirt and great videos, or like they say (translated: less blah, blah, more images). I liked the not-so-glamorous "real story" of the 2014 Roadbook making on the France4 Stage1 Highlights, many sand digouts, towouts, blown Toyota engine on Castera's rig, that had to be towed to civilization, etc.
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:57 PM   #1780
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Mai Llinares on Twitter just said that Spanish TV reported Marc Coma might have to swap engines already!

Those penalty minutes are NOT what Coma would want right now. This would introduce a chance at a second engine swap which would remove his chance at winning. If he used one ip in two relatively easy stages one would think lasting on the second one for 11 more stages isn't likely.

15 minutes for first, 45 for second if memory serves. 45 would be a deal breaker for anyone hoping to win
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Old 01-06-2014, 02:58 PM   #1781
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True this. I walked on a fractured foot to show the FIM guy I was okay in Brazil. I'm not sure I was all tat convincing, because he just smiled at me knowingly and said, "Okay then, good luck for tomorrow".
Truth of the matter is, that he probably took one look at you Neil, thought to himself; "Well, the foots repairable... the heads a lost cause though... so, away you go!"
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:00 PM   #1782
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Truth of the matter is, that he probably took one look at you Neil, thought to himself; "Well, the foots repairable... the heads a lost cause though... so, away you go!"
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:01 PM   #1783
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Not according to the ASO he isn't!
They have him listed as AUS. I guess the English-speaking contingent all get lumped together by ASO. AFAIK Ben was born 'n bred here. He has been crowned King of the Desert, though…about as close to royalty as any of us will get ;-)
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:01 PM   #1784
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Old 01-06-2014, 03:02 PM   #1785
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Just had to add this:
Toyota to race biodiesel SUV in 2014 Dakar Rally

http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.UssyTet8yUd




Stage Two:

32 345 MITSUHASHI (JPN) GUEHENNEC (FRA) TOYOTA 08:15:07 01:58:05



I was sure that this was some sort of backdoor scheme to have assistance during the race: Follow 401, HERVE DIERS (FRA) TOYOTA(!) The French Fry Guy!






Worst case if they run out: Tap the fryers for fuel! Genius by the Japanese!



Sadly it appears that the Frier hasn't made the start of Stage two...


Perhaps they already gave their chips up to the Japanese. Or they kept having to stop to vend to the waiting crowds...
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