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Old 01-07-2014, 05:29 AM   #2101
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El australiano Ben Graham se toma un descanso
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:31 AM   #2102
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Laia Sanz set off at 10.19 AM local time in a fine 27th position in the general standings… As for Rosa Romero Font, after a difficult day yesterday, she will be determined to improve on her 123rd position today. In the quads, in a very respectable 17th place at the mid-point in the standings, Camelia Liparoti will start at 10.42 AM local time. The saga of the Escalé brothers will also continue in the coming hours: Gilbert will start in 137th place, almost 10 hours behind the leaders, whilst Oriol is in 121st place, more than 6 hours behind.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:33 AM   #2103
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I'm with you, I think the honda riders are pushing to hard and too fast and they will pay for that eventually.

I'd love to see yamaha win, but Grabbo on the podium would be awesome
I think you will find all are pushing it, yesterday Coma and Despres both had incidents that cost time, Coma 8 mins so it was reported - regardless of any mind game statements IMO they are all pushing it all of the time, but to suite the conditions
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:33 AM   #2104
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:34 AM   #2105
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:34 AM   #2106
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El australiano Ben Graham se toma un descanso
Grabbo demonstrating the famous Aussie "powa nap". As perfected on many Oz Safari's... cool hat!

Go Grabbo!
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:35 AM   #2107
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:35 AM   #2108
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I haven't finished my coffee yet so, please give some slack if I am mistaken, but, is Mischa's tracker not working right now?

I seem to recall that once a rider has left the building they moved past the DSS line in the Tracker.

On the Dakar Live Timing Page (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/s...kes-hours.html) it has listed Verhoven as leaving at 10:15 and nothing after that.

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Just now, Sam is listed as leaving the DSS on Mischa's Tracker but no one else. Strange.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:36 AM   #2109
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:37 AM   #2110
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I'd thought that many would have learnt, even if their only knowledge of South America was just from Dakar coverage, that it's largely a thoroughly modern, urbanised group of societies - look to the crowds and their toys / transport at most spectator sections.

I can get off a plane, at any international airport in the world, and find Third World standards of living, within a few minutes, just as I can find it 50 / 500 miles away. And I include my country, OZ, in that.

It's a big wide world out there - I'd say much of South America, is part of the future of the world, perhaps, moreso that the North, and much of the 'established West', in general.
I like this comment very much. Its so easy to be critical of cultures we do not properly understand.

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At that time the rules specifically said they did not guarantee picking up sidecars or quads, just solo motos. But my point was that they helped this guy cheat with the local's truck, and in Peter's case they DQ'd him for basically the same thing.
I think there is a difference between transporting your bike to the bivouac/ASS and transporting you bike to a mechanic to be fixed. We have seen that before.


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The one thing you can count on about the ASO official "live" timing (at least the waypoint tracking) is that you can't count on it.

The POSIS (manually entered data... usually in conjunction with the CP's (control point/check points) is generally the only hardened fast time you can rely upon.

When they get all intervall timing points on the DAKAR working (and it seems less frequent these days than in the past? strangely enough) then the f5 collective use this to create their "virtual" picture of who is where on the piste relative to each other... a "minds eye" version of what the irritrach graphic (still use on other events) depicts.

Alas for some reason (an we might have been a contributing f5actor BTW ) for reasons known to themselves, ASO have ceased using the irritrack plotter/graphic as part of the DAKAR coverage... since a couple years back.
I found that the WP info is simply the posis repeated this year. There is no WP info like we had last year At first I thought they were still trying to get their system sorted out but since then I think it may have been planned like this. Not very impressed.

Which reminds me....we have still heard nothing from Manny. Has anyone been able to contact him?

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Oh and Troy..... Chaleco has got NOTHING


Being contrarian I am voting for the Gonk to win this stage. Most of today's stage is winding tracks with a little bit of navigation on top of a mountain. I dont think it will be too difficult.


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Give me chance, just got of a plane - no on board technology available yet. Will be sporadic later though, but if Sam can get a 3rd/4th today that will be a result!
With Sam opening, I agree this would be a great result.

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What happend to Fimp? #188
Mechanical, had to withdraw.
Thats putting things mildly! It was ridden over by a truck, flattened, and despite managing to fix it (to a degree) he could only limp along and could not keep up.

Massive respect.

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Paal Anders has a developed sense of possible dangers through 12 Dakars, and while the official DNF reason is engine malfunction - I know him to be cautious and down to earth.

If he felt the urge to leave his bike like that in the boonsticks - possibly after having drained the battery after several restart attempts ( or whatever) the blokes showing up on the scene must have evoked a bad feeling right there and then.

He took with him three of the vital components from the electronic gear package to salvage most possible, but he's a robust and well trained guy not acting so without good reason.

The situation there obviously didn't leave room for much else.

All alone in the boonies surrounded by strange people you instinctively sense are not being positively helpful spectators, you get outta Dodge the fastest way possible.

Hanging around in that neighbourhood with 5 not trustworthy people in 40 degrees heat must have left him choiceless.

He's professional and experienced enough to activate the emergency button on the bike and communicate with ASO through the bike comms ;-)

As he said; that was not a place to hang around.
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:37 AM   #2111
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I haven't finished my coffee yet so, please give some slack if I am mistaken, but, is Mischa's tracker not working right now?

I seem to recall that once a rider has left the building they moved past the DSS line in the Tracker.

On the Dakar Live Timing Page (http://www.dakar.com/dakar/2014/us/s...kes-hours.html) it has listed Verhoven as leaving at 10:15 and nothing after that.

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Just now, Sam is listed as leaving the DSS on Mischa's Tracker but no one else. Strange.
yes on all points... ASO SNAFU...
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:38 AM   #2113
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Sam S opening the track and winning time on Barreda and Chaleco. That's just
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:39 AM   #2114
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OH shit! I really need some coffee! I like the way the water is drawing back in that shot!
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Old 01-07-2014, 05:40 AM   #2115
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Let's hope Paals bike shows up later. These strange people might need the salvage money off the bat, and we shouldn't be surprised if somebody will approach either ASO or Team Ullevĺlseter with a "reasonably negotionable offer" ;-)
That’s what they want salvage money!
During the Whitbread Round the World race in 1989-90 keel felt off from OF Martella on South Atlantic and local Argentinian fisherman’s who just have little rope tighten on floating wreck after the crew salvation ask just 50$ billon and we paid them 10 000$ to hang there five days when we organize bigger salvage ship to pick it up.
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