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Old 01-14-2014, 09:30 AM   #16
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Ya beat me too it.

If you don't lay'er down, you might crash
Good one.
Seriously, ride some gravel roads to get some practice in.
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:05 AM   #17
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on the Speed Triple; butt pucker and scream like a little girl

on the 525; gas it and grin
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Old 01-14-2014, 10:21 AM   #18
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Please export this excellent behavior to Virginia! The VDOT sands & gravels the roads here to the point the look like dirt roads by the end of the Winter and then that's it. Yer on yer own until the rain or traffic washes or wears it off.
not all towns in NH have street sweepers, and some towns that do sweep (mine for instance) only sweeps the village roads and none in the rural areas

sand, salt, loose graded gravel, chip n seal, or even snow & ice don't bother me, I just ride according to conditions

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Old 01-14-2014, 10:33 AM   #19
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IF you have low enough speed when you hit the gravel do not clamp down tight on the bars, let her slide and wander a bit. Look where you want to go.

Of course if you have too much speed, I suggest tucking your arms in and rolling, fetal position if you have time.

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Old 01-14-2014, 12:00 PM   #20
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in cazadero, ca, the gravel is the road.
easy with the front brake and enjoy the ride.

take a riding class like www.americansupercamp.com and have fun
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Old 01-14-2014, 12:27 PM   #21
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Add a bit more throttle (most of the time)
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Old 01-14-2014, 01:09 PM   #22
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Purely gravel roads are ok, they are pretty uniform in consistency and tires can dig in, but the gravel ontop of the asphalt acts like marbles on a hard floor. The fact the consistency changes so quickly will result in a high or low side. Avoiding by staying in the line of car tires is good but sometimes you can't or you missed it.

Going slow and staying vertical I guess are the only things to do
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Old 01-14-2014, 02:27 PM   #23
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Be aware that you are likely to find gravel and sand and ride accordingly.

This. Learn what it looks like, where it accumulates, and how to avoid it.

They liberally cover the roads with red sand here anytime it snows. It is left everywhere and it is extremely slippery. I've even had cages slide around the stuff when it's piled deep enough.

I find, however, that it only takes a few days for traffic to clear most of it off. I have to adjust my cornering lines to stay in the "tire track" on sweepers and try not to ride on the parts of pavement that car tires don't normally hit, as this as where the sand will be.

I've drifted the rear tire several times on the stuff. I hate it. I've found that if the rear tire goes out under throttle, just holding the throttle steady until you're through it is the best course of action. Chopping the throttle could result in an uncontrolled slide.
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:26 PM   #24
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Chopping the throttle could result in an uncontrolled slide.
or sudden grip and subsequent highside


sand, ice, what ever slick surface, best course of action is usually steady throttle, continue your line, be smooth
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Old 01-14-2014, 03:38 PM   #25
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You need a lot more seat time. It's not rocket science. It'll come if you ride enough.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:11 PM   #26
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Something that has always been a problem for me is riding over gravel covered asphalt. Where I live doesn't snow a lot but a couple weeks ago it did and there is still significant gravel covering less traveled roads. I have had a couple unfortunate experiences going through a turn and having my rear tire slip(this is after I have already slowed down and am going 20mph or less).

Apparently increasing the traction of 4 wheeled vehicles for a couple days is an Ok trade off for making the roads hazardous for 2 wheeled vehicles for a month or more.
Fit knobbies. Ride dirt. Ride wet clay. Ride bottomless pillowy sand. Get used to riding on wet grass too. Gravel on the road will then seem almost like dry and clear interstate.
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Old 01-14-2014, 04:19 PM   #27
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Just remember three things... Floor it, turn left, don't fuck up... no, wait, that's car racin. Learn to ride on the dirt, a lot. if you don't, you'll never get comfortable with it.
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Old 01-14-2014, 05:23 PM   #28
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Pissed Chip seal SUCKS!

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*** As if sanding during Winter weren't bad enough, last summer the VDOT came around and chip-sealed the road near our house. I was DISMAYED .

*** It's been 8 months since they did this and it still SUCKS, but it is what it is and I just ride accordingly.

Doug
Michigan's DOT chip-seals quite a bit, particularly on rural roads - right where I like to ride! Pretty much kills the buzz of using that road for a whole summer. Really sucks if you live on that road. Happened to me - TWICE!

Doug, you might be surprised by what makes up the "chip" matrix in that crap. Run a magnetic garage floor sweeper over it and you will find a surprising amount of shreded metal among the concrete chips. Apparently not all recycling crushers have magnetic separators, so at least some rerod gets chipped, sized and sorted with the rest of the concrete.

Since the metal is maleable the little bits get beaten into round'ish ball bearings instead of grippy jagged-edged concrete chips. Ok, ok, so maybe the ball bearing analogy is a stretch ... I'll just stop here.

OP, you will get used to gravel. Stay alert for it, especially in the spring, following thunderstorms, and at the apex of tight right hand corners (where cars will often drop a wheel onto the shoulder and drag gravel out onto the paved surface).

Stay loose, keep calm, carry on.

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Old 01-14-2014, 05:53 PM   #29
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*** sand, salt, loose graded gravel, chip n seal, or even snow & ice don't bother me, I just ride according to conditions ***
Nice picture Randyo!

Do you use any 'special' to protect your bike (particularly the electrical system) from the salt? For instance, maybe a light spray of WD40 on the wiring harness, connectors, and bare aluminum cases? It would disperse the water (and the salt brine in it) during a ride, at least for a while.

WD40 does pose some risk of fire, so maybe just a post-ride spray and wipe down after cooling? Another product? It looks like you ride year round, AT-weather-ATT, so I'm nominating you as the guru on this subject.

Thanks,

Bob

P.S. S'not a hijack .. it is rock salt, after all!
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:21 PM   #30
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1)Try to not to eat a gravel sandwich
2)Eat a gravel sandwich anyway
3)Pick bike and dignity up off the ground
4)repeat
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