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Old 01-10-2014, 08:25 AM   #1786
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Michael1968 is the resident f650 guru, I'm sure he will chime in shortly otherwise send him a message.
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Old 01-10-2014, 09:39 AM   #1787
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Rallye navigation bracket photo thread

Super!

And it was supposed to say "street legal", nothing else...
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:51 AM   #1788
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Michael1968 is the resident f650 guru, I'm sure he will chime in shortly otherwise send him a message.
F650 'tragic' is probably more appropriate....


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Now my (main) question are; will the original frame mount be able to hold the weight of a nav-tower? The weight of the original dash, lights etcetera are just below 4kilos (8,8lb US). Keep in mind the bike will not run any desert or hard enduro stretches but mostly gravel roads and trails. It needs to be street lethal.
Yes, your frame mounts are defiantly stong enough, yours even looks a little better designed than mine ('97 F650) which have stood up to a fair amount of abuse. That said it's better to design your nav tower to be weaker than your frame mounts.

Let me know if you have any more questions.
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Old 01-13-2014, 01:53 AM   #1789
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Let me know if you have any more questions.
Thanks Michael, there will sure be some more!
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:09 AM   #1790
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For Hellas Rally Raid 2014 participants MT Rally offers navi towers for 350euros
Tower is available for all market roadbooks and trip master.
visit them here
https://www.facebook.com/mtrally?ref=hl
(price does not include lights and frame adapter)
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Old 01-13-2014, 02:54 AM   #1791
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Ähhh, there seems to be a cutout for the cables missing for the primary tripmaster position (top left corner)?
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Old 01-18-2014, 09:57 AM   #1792
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Anyone tired out the OffRoadNAVI?

Looks promising.





http://www.offroadnavi.com/


http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=942467
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:32 PM   #1793
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Wow, that looks great. No Ico, no roadbook holder required.

Anyone tried one to see what the display is like in the sun?

What's the catch, looks perfect for rally raid...
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:36 PM   #1794
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I was checking out the off-road Navi yesterday I want one but at $750 euro
It works out to be over $1200 Aussie for me . Not to discredit I can slap my $75 8" tablet on my MD it might vibrate iself to death but it works out to 15- 1
I still want one thou . Looks very well made and Eco friendly no more pape scrolls , ( just lead solder and copper ) lol

Maybe after the hi-comp piston and rallyraid shock & new 450 fairing I might get one
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Old 01-18-2014, 02:52 PM   #1795
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I can't see why something like the "Navi" WOULDN'T replace an ICO and RB holder in the future. Just makes sense - one solid state instrument taking the place of at least 3 other instruments one being mechanical. (RB)
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:07 PM   #1796
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I can't see why something like the "Navi" WOULDN'T replace an ICO and RB holder in the future. Just makes sense - one solid state instrument taking the place of at least 3 other instruments one being mechanical. (RB)
It would also make route changes possible at maned check points via wifi

In case of environmental factor Eg fire , flood , other last minute changes
But think about it it works out cheaper then 1xMD & 2x ICO's just too bad I have
All those
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:24 PM   #1797
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After pondering it I see two drawbacks...

Rallies won't let you use it....

Roadbook has a manual backup, this thing goes on the fritz and your screwed.

Still....looks awesome. if I hadn't of just purchased a new roadbook holder I would be very, very tempted
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:29 PM   #1798
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Roadbook has a manual backup, this thing goes on the fritz and your screwed.
That^

It's the fundamental reason that roadbooks remain printed on paper.

(Just think where Barreda would have been last week if he'd had one of these - probably in Peru!!!)

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Old 01-18-2014, 03:30 PM   #1799
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I can't see why something like the "Navi" WOULDN'T replace an ICO and RB holder in the future. Just makes sense - one solid state instrument taking the place of at least 3 other instruments one being mechanical. (RB)

This has been discussed back in 2009
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=527635

I have discussed the matter with both Elite riders and users. It is a completely different situation. For tours, hobby etc, yes, the 7 inch screen, the gps and the tracking would be amazing. Much like Pilo's application is instead of an ICO. But that is were it stops. Hobby.

Rally raids, Dakar, Tuareg, Eco Race, Serres Rally, the lot ... will continue to use paper. As Jenny said in the above thread, that is why they have two ICOs. If riders could, they could even have two roadbooks. Of course you can carry a second inch tablet and blah blah blah, but it will create too much hassle for the orga people to go through in case there are hidden applications there, gps's, maps etc. Tripy is far more reliable and there are at least another TWO companies at the moment that I know that they go digital. Nice gadget, too expensive at the moment, it replaces all three devices, correct, but if it goes boom you loose all three devices at once. And the problem is that electtronic things do not give warnings... That is why even the RB has the manual knobs.
Imagine that the GPS category, even from small rally raids vanished. And for sure, if they are to allow it there will be a period were both electronic and mechanical devices are allowed. Realistically? More and more everyday people will use it. Hook it up to your CDI and you can get a data logger. You can even read the newspaper, send sms's and watch your favorite video while you wait for your friends to catch up...

Hey Ted, hold your horses, ok ?
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Old 01-18-2014, 03:43 PM   #1800
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FI wasn't on rally bikes in the day either. I'm sure there were riders that were saying the same thing: "What if my FI goes 'boom'? I'm screwed then!" Now we have sophisticated FI systems. Water cooled bikes took the place of air-cooled bikes. What if you loose your radiator? You're screwed! FIA world rally was made up of cars with carbs and analog clocks and odometers but now they run sophisticated equipment as well. Remember when an F1 driver actually had a shift KNOB in his car? Remember when an F1 dash was analog? I definitely see your point but I bet technology like the above is coming. It may be illegal now but so were many other things that are now allowed. If a rider could really carry - and wanted to carry - a back up road book then you could easily carry another lightweight and thin electronic RB. (Hell, your "E-RB" goes bad? Plug in another one in a matter of seconds and away you go!) It's a ways off but it's coming.
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