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Old 01-22-2014, 05:32 PM   #16
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I don't want to be the bad guy but my sister lived in Doney Park and I would not recommend it to anyone.
It's okay. That's what the internet is for. Can't say where in the Doney area your sis lived, but maybe neighborhoods in 300k+ range are slumming it for you.
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Old 01-22-2014, 05:35 PM   #17
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Based on your photo spread, you'll fit in just fine. Cost of living is very high, and work that pays well is pretty scarce. WL Gore, the University, USGS, Forest Service, National Park Service, and assorted other Federally funded outfits. THe hospital is a big hub, and supports a substantial portion of the middle class (also Federally funded, arguably) Housing costs an arm and a leg. Median sales price is over $250k. Williams and Winslow are near by, and much cheaper, but I cannot recommend them. Plenty of good riding around, politics with the Feds probably no worse than anywhere. They are on a big kick to expand wilderness locally, and just closed most of the single track a year and a half back. Plenty of 2 track in every direction. Know as the Ghetto in the Meadow, based on cost of living.
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Old 01-22-2014, 07:26 PM   #18
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It's okay. That's what the internet is for. Can't say where in the Doney area your sis lived, but maybe neighborhoods in 300k+ range are slumming it for you.
Allright, you got me on that one. I did not realize there were houses that nice out there until I browsed the aerial imagery for a bit. She lived on Moonbeam, right out in the middle of a bunch of tiny, cheap little houses with prairie dog infested yards where the wind never, ever stopped blowing. And when they had that flood several years ago, seems like a lot of the area was covered in a foot of mud.
But, if you've got some cash, it looks like there are some pretty decent places to be had out there as well.
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Old 01-23-2014, 08:53 AM   #19
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Old 01-23-2014, 10:49 AM   #20
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Yep. Moonbeam, Gemini, Saturn - seems the celestial streets leave a bit to be desired. My brother's got a rental on Gemini that was completely washed out by the flood. Too bad, really, no one in the area ever imagined a flood could take place there, so no one had insurance and the Feds didn't help because not enough folks were affected. There's lots more to the area though. Tons of really nice houses on 2+ acre lots all around in the 300-500k range. The wind does blow, and you do learn to live with prairie dogs or snuff them. Lots of riding in the Cinders right next door.

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Allright, you got me on that one. I did not realize there were houses that nice out there until I browsed the aerial imagery for a bit. She lived on Moonbeam, right out in the middle of a bunch of tiny, cheap little houses with prairie dog infested yards where the wind never, ever stopped blowing. And when they had that flood several years ago, seems like a lot of the area was covered in a foot of mud.
But, if you've got some cash, it looks like there are some pretty decent places to be had out there as well.
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Old 01-23-2014, 02:59 PM   #21
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I just wanted to take a moment to thank everyone for the advice. It all helps.

Sandwash,

Nice, if that is a DR it looks like you have taken it a long ways from stock. Giving some thought to possibly downsizing the Tenere to a KLR,
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Old 01-24-2014, 05:59 PM   #22
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Yesterdays paper said the 2013 monthly median was actually $290k each month, I was under by $40k. Yeah, frickin expensive, but it's pretty, and there is lots of riding, if not much single track anymore.
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Old 01-25-2014, 03:56 AM   #23
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I have to tell ya, if I have to spend $290K for a house. When you guys come to visit I will be the guy in the Yurt.

I have been looking on Trulia and Zillow and see enough places for $100 - $175K to give me some hope. It doesn't take too many 8 million dolar homes to skew the average.

Having worked in the Vail and Aspen area last year. Where the dogs are worth more than I was. I was sill able to find a great place to rent for a reasonable price.

But housing is cart before the horse. I have to get the position first.

Apptitude test - No Problem,
Drug Test - No Problem,

Personality Test - 50/50 Shot,
It seems telling the truth is no longer a valuable trait.

How are the taxes out there?
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Old 01-25-2014, 04:12 AM   #24
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Old 01-25-2014, 06:48 AM   #25
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Ya 97 dr650 far from stock.Stiffer springs front(DCC) and back,FCR pumper cab,way comfy seat,5 gal IMS tank.Just to name a few.I might go nuts'o and go the the 790 kit.
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Old 01-25-2014, 01:06 PM   #26
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I have to tell ya, if I have to spend $290K for a house. When you guys come to visit I will be the guy in the Yurt.

Personality Test - 50/50 Shot,
It seems telling the truth is no longer a valuable trait.

How are the taxes out there?

if you move out here i'll be making friends,, sounds like we'd get along perfectly.

i aint spending 290k for a house,,,, i'd have a real hard time justifying much more than about 120k. i'd rather spend money on playing and travel than a mortgage.

and the bit about the personality test,,, no shit, i was apparently too honest to work for the city when i went through and aced all the other tests they had for a position i wanted.

but i also think it had something to do with too many white guys and not enough "minorities" and maybe i was just the odd man out to hire a minority even if he was less qualified, read about that all the time.
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Old 01-25-2014, 03:48 PM   #27
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From what I hear, Arizona is a low tax state, and Coconino is a low tax county. And New York is a high tax state. So you may find that in your favor.

$100K of housing money will get you a doublewide thirty miles from town, or maybe not. And thirty miles out is bleak, in most directions. Anything under $250K needs 50K of rehab.... rent seems to be $800, less if you room-mate or go for the student studio. Quite a few folks seem to live in the woods playing hide-and-seek with the the constabulary, but you know, that's work too...

Work: if you have a CDL, or if you can mig and tig, come on out. Otherwise, think about a visit in April-May-June. If you can stand it then, find the job....
I've always heard work is really scarce in upstate NY. It's thin here, but probably not that thin....
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Old 01-26-2014, 06:22 AM   #28
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I don't need a lot of space. I will look for something like this. Off the grid is fine, actually preferred.

For Sale:
2200 W Raney Rd, Ash Fork AZ 86320
$101,000
2 bd / 2 ba / 836 sqft
See it on Trulia.
http://www.trulia.com/property/30886...-Fork-AZ-86320


Having lived in several different places. I have come to the conclusion every state finds some creative ways to extract money from it's residents. Most of New York is a high tax state. Not as much up here where I live.

I have roughly a 1000sqft house here with a detached garage and tool shed on about 8 acres. Not overly fancy. But It works for me,


It is tucked neatly in the woods, on a quiet dead end road, with only one neighbor in sight and that is only in the winter, when the leaves are off,


And it has something no house should be without, complete with both indoor and outdoor lighting.


Total combined school and property taxes are just under $1,800.00 Electric is cheap, fuel/gas is high, and they seem to pick your pockets in other more subtle ways.

I don't own a television or a cell phone, so I save some on that end. I don't smoke and I rarely go to bars. So more money stays home.

I live pretty simply by choice. I am into bushcrafting, and self reliance,


I would rather spend my time outdoors. As time goes by, I look to relearn the ways of the past.


I will miss this. The Adirondack Park is a great place for the canoe,


I live in the playground of Nessmuk and French Louie!


I looked on Best Place's relocation calculator. And Flag comes in higher than here. For reference I used Malone, N.Y. The closest real town to me.

I have a CDL-A and can weld pretty well. At least with low hydrogen stick(7018) or GP Rod(6013). Wire feed I never messed with. Mostly welded on things like excavator booms and dozer blades and skidder hitches. I can weld overhead, and vertical.

That being said, that is not the job I am looking for. I can also run that stuff with some modicum of efficiency. I actually dug Dan Rather's foundation in a place called Turnwood in the Beaverkill Valley of NewnYork. Did earthwork for Deano Bradlee, the son of Ben Bradlee, and many other so called celebrities. I can actually claim that I had Miss Australia on my lap, in my D-6R. No small feat I might add.

But I tired of consoling the rich folks, and moved on. I coulld be talked into getting back into dirt work. I like the legacy it leaves after you are gone. But at the moment that is not the direction I am looking towards.

Not wanting to jinx my chances so not talking about the job much yet. Plus competition for it is already high enough.

I am job driven, not wanting to move first and then look for work. I find I make bad decisions when I am hungry and broke. And you can burn through a lot of money fast with no job. Plus I do not like to admit I failed in my objectives.

This in it's early stage. They seem to like me. But there are many steps to be taken as I mentioned above. In todays world you navigate through a series of HR folks fresh out of college with a newly minted degree that can control your destiny. Many have no clue about the job you will perform, nor could they do it. But base their decisions on a set of standardized tests that seem to have recently permeated corporate America.

I seem to be blessed with some very unique talents. But they are offset by my desire for independence, inability to lie, and lack of desire to kiss people's asses unnecessarily. In today's corporate employment scenario, that makes me less attractive than many others. But it is my life long desire to leave this planet with my integrity in tact.
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Old 01-26-2014, 10:09 AM   #29
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:10 PM   #30
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Nice choice of a lifestyle...

I respect and envy that lifestyle, hard to go back once you leave "simple" behind but I'm trying, maybe not to that extent but certianly simpler than where I'm at now.

You sound like a person of good character.
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