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Old 02-11-2014, 03:35 PM   #16
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Call some tool rental places and ask for a pipe defroster. Most places do not carry them. You'll have to do lots of calling. When you do find one, it will be basically a small welder with hundreds of feet of cable. I had a 1" buried copper line that was frozen solid, this machine thawed that pipe in 5 minutes.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:47 PM   #17
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got two of these and have never had to use it. note it's dangerous to use a welder unless one knows specifically what type welder and what settings to use. there's been fires caused by using welders to thaw pipes.




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got two of these and have never had to use it


What is the current rating on those units?

The local guy told me they use about 300 amps and are taking 2-7 hours to thaw a pipe.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:16 PM   #19
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What is the current rating on those units?

The local guy told me they use about 300 amps and are taking 2-7 hours to thaw a pipe.
Trindl Thermotron has two settings, 200amp and 300amp
200 amp setting puts out AC voltage at 3volts, 300amp setting puts out 6volts AC.

have seen all sorts of funky setting on welding forums including reports of fires. safer to rent one instead of using a welder. unless you are able to duplicate spec's above.
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Old 02-11-2014, 08:53 PM   #20
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Is this a bad time to open a how to change a leaky flapper thread?

No water is better than water backing up. Spent a bit of my childhood learning that. Grease traps in the summer are hard to forget.
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Old 02-12-2014, 04:26 AM   #21
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Trindl Thermotron has two settings, 200amp and 300amp
200 amp setting puts out AC voltage at 3volts, 300amp setting puts out 6volts AC.

have seen all sorts of funky setting on welding forums including reports of fires. safer to rent one instead of using a welder. unless you are able to duplicate spec's above.
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Thanks for the info.

I'm not sure how I'll proceed yet, still considering just waiting.
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Old 02-12-2014, 05:39 AM   #22
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MN is coming out of the freezer next week!

Welders causing fires? Pipes must get pretty hot. Arcing!
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:17 AM   #23
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My boss is having an issue with his pipes. It's so f'n cold up here the frost line is going way down into the ground!

How low does the water temp go down before you have to worry? 35 degrees at the tap?
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Old 02-25-2014, 09:51 AM   #24
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Trindl Thermotron has two settings, 200amp and 300amp
200 amp setting puts out AC voltage at 3volts, 300amp setting puts out 6volts AC.

have seen all sorts of funky setting on welding forums including reports of fires. safer to rent one instead of using a welder. unless you are able to duplicate spec's above.
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No, you don't have to duplicate the voltage. That will be a function of the pipe's resistance and the amps.

Start with ~50 amps and see what happens.
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MN is coming out of the freezer next week!

How's that spring thaw working out for you???
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My boss is having an issue with his pipes. It's so f'n cold up here the frost line is going way down into the ground!

How low does the water temp go down before you have to worry? 35 degrees at the tap?

FYI the frost is now 62 inches down near Rochester (MN).

I have heard (didn't read it on the internet so I don't know if it is abslutely true) that one should be working the problem when the temp at the tap is initially 40.
A friend that lives near Bemidji was seeing about 35 but after running it for a while it got above 50. That was from a well.

It might not get that warm if you have city water.

In MPLS IIRC water is free so you could just let it run.
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MN is coming out of the freezer next week!

Welders causing fires? Pipes must get pretty hot. Arcing!
It lasted about a day. This week in southern MN the highs will be around -2
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Old 02-26-2014, 07:12 PM   #28
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My boss is having an issue with his pipes. It's so f'n cold up here the frost line is going way down into the ground!

How low does the water temp go down before you have to worry? 35 degrees at the tap?
We are telling our customers when the water temp hits 37 let it run

Seems to be working
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We are telling our customers when the water temp hits 37 let it run

Seems to be working
The local utility in a nearby town suggested this and estimated it would add about US$120/mo. to the water bill.

Of course that is probably cheaper than any thawing or repair would be unless you do it yourself.
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