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Old 12-23-2013, 05:00 PM   #1
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Another Transalp Resto-thread

Wow. Its been a while. Good to be back.

Maybe this belongs in the Transalp Modifications thread, but, we'll see...

...its been a long, long time coming, but I finally bit the bullet and started the resto-mod on my 89 TransAlp.

Here’s a ‘before’ picture just for posterity’s sake, and a short story while were at it: My dad bought this bike when I was about 7 and it’s been mine since I was old enough to ride it, so it has a lot of sentimental value.


The planned major modifications which are always subject to change include:

Twin-disc front brakes
Single-disc rear brakes
Post-1994 fairing/gaugepod facelift.
R134 Fighting Red paint

(I have 95% of the needed parts in hand I think)


Hopefully I can get some advice peer pressure (the good kind) for me to get this thing finished.

So here' goes...
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Old 12-23-2013, 05:09 PM   #2
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First, all the body work comes off, and the plan is to mock up and make sure than my modifications fit and will work before we strip everything down for cleaning/painting/etc. I decided to start with the new fairing and gauges. I got a fairing, headlight, and guage pod from a later model Transalp from ebay. Mocked it up and everything fit, and came on when I turned the key on! The amber Side Stand light has a different connector that I will have to splice but that’s it.



The headlight has the main 3-pin connector for the main bulb and a pigtail which goes to a small bulb. Is this a European thing like a daytime running light or something maybe?


Any way, I’ll try to keep this updated with my progress. I am going to try to mock the front brakes up next. If anybody with a twin-front-disc ‘Alp want to take a couple good pictures of the front wheel hub, brake calipers and, speedo drive that would be most appreciated.

Until next time…Cheers.
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Old 12-23-2013, 06:50 PM   #3
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The "before" doesn't look any worse than mine! How many miles?
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:10 AM   #4
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yeah, it only has about 35000 miles and is not in terrible shape (mechanically it is just fine), lots of little annoying stuff, mostly. I just want to give it a major refresh.

A Transalp in the US is already enough of an oddity, but I also want to make it more unique.
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Old 12-24-2013, 06:35 AM   #5
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Old 03-17-2014, 05:50 PM   #6
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i have been working some but not posting. so here's a catch up:

The bike is now dissasembled down to just a frame + swingarm + forks & handlebars.

The 650 Transalp forks and brake calipers are mocked up and look like they'll work just fine.

I got ready to try my new front wheel mocked up

and then realized 2 important things:

1. The XLV650 speedo drive is different from the 600 even thought it looks the same from a distance so I'll have to find one of thems.
2. I need an XLV650 front axle, too

Sounds like time to scour some European ebay sites, I need XLV650 brake discs and pads anyway.
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Old 03-17-2014, 06:04 PM   #7
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Now the QUESTIONS so far:

1. Does anybody have a good idea how to thoroughly clean the outside of the engine? It doesnt need but a couple small areas of paint touch up but it definitely needs the years of road grime cleaned.

2. I need a new headlight/blinker/horn switch. The sun has killed the plastic housing plus my horn button no longer works. Honda has discontinued the part, is there a newer Honda part that is the replacement? Any ideas?

3. Thoughts on using the original master cylinder to actuate 2 brake calipers instead of just one? I have pondered the fluid mechanics of this for a while and I think I've already decided to try it before I look for a different master cylinder. The ammount of fluid that actually 'moves' is so small, I dont think it should matter. The master cylinder is a way of pressurizing the fluid, not pumping it. Try to change my mind if you think this is a terrible idea.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:07 AM   #8
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Hi

Good luck with the freshen up and mods. Stiil plenty of life left in her at 35k miles.

Can't answer your specific questions above, I just went with a single 320mm rotor and steel line for the front. It works well. This is my solution for a rear disc brake setup:

http://advrider.com/forums/showpost....postcount=7795

You'll need:

A 650 rear wheel and brake setup complete;and
A swingarm from a post 90-91 disc braked 600 (the 650 swingarm will not fit)

It all pretty much bolts in, but you'll need to cut and shorten the brake pedal arm.
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Old 03-18-2014, 05:24 AM   #9
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The headlight has the main 3-pin connector for the main bulb and a pigtail which goes to a small bulb. Is this a European thing like a daytime running light or something maybe?

Park light? At least that's what it's called here.
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Now the QUESTIONS so far:


2. I need a new headlight/blinker/horn switch. The sun has killed the plastic housing plus my horn button no longer works. Honda has discontinued the part, is there a newer Honda part that is the replacement? Any ideas?
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Old 03-18-2014, 08:47 AM   #11
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The switch is pretty generic. You should be able to get one from a '93 xr650l. They are listed as available on bikebandit.
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Old 03-18-2014, 12:20 PM   #12
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Good stuff, like jwb said, there are other options for the switches, maybe aftermarket option from Baja Designs could work too. If you want to stick with OEM TA parts, I would suggest contacting mas335, Mark is a great guy to deal with, fair, and probably has what you need or knows were to get it. Mark will have some ideas on cleaning the engine too I'm sure. I think he is moving presently however, you might need to give him a little time to respond.


I wouldn't be afraid to test out the stock master with double disk, on an open road with no one around obviously. The front brake hoses for the 89 TA are very complex and the rubber sections expand when you clamp down on the brake...steel lines are a good idea like icekube1 mentioned.
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There are a couple of NOS Honda parts places that would be worth checking for the original switch housing, although the price might be more than you're willing to pay:

Western Hills: http://www.westernhillshondayamaha.com

CMSNL in the Netherlands: http://www.cmsnl.com

As to cleaning the engine, use a nylon brush, old toothbrushes, wooden skewers, etc. and a degreaser like Simple Green, Purple Power, etc. Repeat as required. You could try aerosol brake cleaner, which will make short work of any kind of grease, but it might take the paint off and eat the rubber parts too.
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:30 PM   #14
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Great, I've got almost a whole 650 rear brake setup. I know I need a disc and it looks like i'll need the little spacers that go on either side. I hope those dont end up being too hard to find.

You know how on bikebandit.com where they basically have the parts fiche and you can find exactly the bracket, spacer, etc you're looking for? Are there any similar sites that will have the 650 Transalp?
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Old 03-19-2014, 05:33 PM   #15
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Park light? At least that's what it's called here.
Maybe this is a dumb question but how does it work, when is it on?
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