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Old 03-23-2014, 08:58 PM   #31
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Old 03-25-2014, 11:04 PM   #32
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Yes I get your point.
Kewl, glad you did. From an EE point of view, I wasn't even going to try to correct that statement. Just like I won't try to change 2moto's mistaken opinion. Its just not worth the internet ones and zeroes.
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:13 AM   #33
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Kewl, glad you did. From an EE point of view, I wasn't even going to try to correct that statement. Just like I won't try to change 2moto's mistaken opinion. Its just not worth the internet ones and zeroes.
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No I get where you are coming from - I was speaking more along the lines of get you out of the shit, break the rules, draw just as much current before the cables catch fire, point of view. (When you think about it jumper cables generally aren't fused ).
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Old 03-26-2014, 02:33 AM   #34
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No I get where you are coming from - I was speaking more along the lines of get you out of the shit, break the rules, draw just as much current before the cables catch fire, point of view. (When you think about it jumper cables generally aren't fused ).
And they are a lot larger, not permanently affixed to your motorcycle and don't usually get pinched in areas like between your seat and frame.

The fuse is there to protect the wire from shorting and burning. Every battery charger lead should have one. Can you trickle charge your bike from another, sure you can. Can you draw full cranking amps through it, no way. And if the fuse blows you shouldn't bypass it either. The fuse is not just there for your inconvenience.
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Old 03-26-2014, 03:18 AM   #35
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And they are a lot larger, not permanently affixed to your motorcycle and don't usually get pinched in areas like between your seat and frame.

The fuse is there to protect the wire from shorting and burning. Every battery charger lead should have one. Can you trickle charge your bike from another, sure you can. Can you draw full cranking amps through it, no way. And if the fuse blows you shouldn't bypass it either. The fuse is not just there for your inconvenience.
That was a joke.

If I was to bypass the fuse for an emergency jump start, I certainly wouldn't leave it that way for charging, good way to start a house fire.
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Old 03-26-2014, 06:49 AM   #36
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Also, so the firemen among us can rest easy, now we have our new battery in place I removed the cable when I fitted the new battery however the SAE lead DID hook us out of the shit which I am happy and grateful for.
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... seriously get over yourself man..its not an opinion it is fact...still can't accept what worked to get us out of the crap?, remember we are on the road and don't have a garage to home to each day with a battery charger or a shop that sells batteries.......not worth the ones and zeros ... I feel sorry you even had to say that.

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No I get where you are coming from - I was speaking more along the lines of get you out of the shit, break the rules, draw just as much current before the cables catch fire, point of view. (When you think about it jumper cables generally aren't fused ).
This is our point, it worked when we needed it to, not for a full flat as discussed but a run down situation.
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Old 03-26-2014, 07:20 AM   #37
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I tried it. The wire caught fire.
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:14 AM   #38
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... seriously get over yourself man..its not an opinion it is fact...still can't accept what worked to get us out of the crap?, remember we are on the road and don't have a garage to home to each day with a battery charger or a shop that sells batteries.......not worth the ones and zeros ... I feel sorry you even had to say that.

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This is our point, it worked when we needed it to, not for a full flat as discussed but a run down situation.
"Get over myself", sheesh. Practice what you spout dood. Can't take anyone disagreeing with you? Relax, we're all riders here. I couldn't care less if you agree with me or not.

If you want an educated and experienced electrical engineer's comments on the purpose of a fuse in a wiring circuit, I can give you that. But you don't.

You have already stated some dangerous opinions regarding wiring protection, and since you have gotten away with it, you must be correct! Or not. I don't care to debate. Go have a nice ride!
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Old 03-26-2014, 09:22 AM   #39
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I hate it when people play devils advocate with serious safety stuff like this.
Scenario: Jump start with tiny wires, positive wire catches on fire melting all insulation. positive wire then grounds out on frame shorting the battery untill the lead melts off or the battery explodes.
Dont do it.

Also dont wear metal rings on your fingers, they make you look girly.
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"Get over myself", sheesh. Practice what you spout dood. Can't take anyone disagreeing with you? Relax, we're all riders here. I couldn't care less if you agree with me or not.

If you want an educated and experienced electrical engineer's comments on the purpose of a fuse in a wiring circuit, I can give you that. But you don't.

You have already stated some dangerous opinions regarding wiring protection, and since you have gotten away with it, you must be correct! Or not. I don't care to debate. Go have a nice ride!
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Hey you fired the first shot at me, we are not jumping starting from flat as discussed, just down a bit to make it not start.

I am well aware of how big jumper cables are, we used what we had to make it work so I don't appreciate we being bagged off for improvising.

It worked, maybe not perfect in the world of the electrical model but don't rinse me down for making something work, would you be able to help me in Bolivia with a run down battery at 4000 meters in the middle on nowhere? ... no .. so leave it at that.

I am finished with this thread as I only answered the OP question with what we had done and politely without shooting off.

Have a nice ride, we are.
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Old 03-26-2014, 11:04 AM   #42
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YOU started it!

Did not!
Did too!

Well I'm having a good time!
Well, fine!
Yeah, fine!
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Ok, maybe the term 'jump start' shouldn't have been used in my question here.

But I at least know now I can 'trickle start.' Even though it might take awhile.

You all can put your little peeps away now.
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Awwww do they they? There goes my next farkle.
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