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Old 05-09-2014, 12:19 PM   #91
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Just picked up my bike not too long ago and am still in the break-in period (love it, so much more aggressive than my GS). Since I am a research guy, I called yesterday concerning the air filter to ask for an update on the situation (KTM US) and was told there was none. The tone of the call was not what I was expecting. After reading the thread, I understand why. Now that I know the Uni voids the warranty, I will call again and make another pitch, as mine is in the mail and planning to be installed next week. At this price range, you should not have to wait for a problem that you know will happen to get a fix (only to really fix it after the warranty expires and other damage done, let alone a lack of confidence in a new vehicle). Does anyone have an email address for KTM US as opposed to a phone number and address? Despite this, safe and happy riding to all.
I just picked mine up a few days ago. Read this thread and took the bike off the road; so there it sits in the garage with ~ 100 miles. I was poking around online trying to find some internal e-mail addresses and was not very successful. I see many domains; ktm.com, ktmusa.com, ktmpowersports.com and others. NA President is on linkedIn and KTM has the standard Twitter and facebook accounts. Making some noise on the facebook page could get a response. I continue to hunt for an e-mail address.

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Old 05-09-2014, 12:41 PM   #92
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Ugh

I am on the list for a June delivery of an R, but this thread makes me want to wait for a 2015 in hopes it is better?

I read on here that AUS is getting Unifilters from KTM, while in the US it voids warranty? What?!

/Nervous soon to be 1190R owner
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:44 PM   #93
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just called customer service (440-985-3553) of course it was busy so I left a message and they returned my call in about 15 minutes. the guy was polite and seemed to understand the problem. he suggested the powerparts filter and pre-filter (part# 60306115000 & 6030692200 ) is also suggested a bead of silicone around the lid, let it set up a bit and then install the lid? I told him I would give that a try.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:47 PM   #94
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I am on the list for a June delivery of an R, but this thread makes me want to wait for a 2015 in hopes it is better?

I read on here that AUS is getting Unifilters from KTM, while in the US it voids warranty? What?!

/Nervous soon to be 1190R owner
This is nothing really if you spent any time on the Ducati Multistrada forums in 2010 - 2013. Swelling fuel tanks, cracked body panels, failing electronic suspension, failing electronics, keys failing to pair leaving owners unable to start bike, damaged engines from bad coolant (recall), unusable rear brake (recall), and more. I am sure there are others I am forgetting. This is like a dream compared to that.
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Old 05-09-2014, 12:52 PM   #95
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This is nothing really if you spent any time on the Ducati Multistrada forums in 2010 - 2013. Swelling fuel tanks, cracked body panels, failing electronic suspension, failing electronics, keys failing to pair leaving owners unable to start bike, damaged engines from bad coolant (recall), unusable rear brake (recall), and more. I am sure there are others I am forgetting. This is like a dream compared to that.

Truth, I read up on that pretty extensively as well. I think the issues + 1 year warranty is the worry. Sounds like best best is to do the Uni from day 1 and just wave goodbye to the warranty.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:01 PM   #96
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Truth, I read up on that pretty extensively as well. I think the issues + 1 year warranty is the worry. Sounds like best best is to do the Uni from day 1 and just wave goodbye to the warranty.
I don't know why people think this is good-bye to the warranty? do it yourself and keep the stock parts. if it needs to go for warranty put it back to stock. problem solved
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:06 PM   #97
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Sounds like best best is to do the Uni from day 1 and just wave goodbye to the warranty.
Just pull Uni before driving to dealer for service and warranty will not be an issue. I thought 1190 had 2 year unlimited warranty?
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:10 PM   #98
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Just pull Uni before driving to dealer for service and warranty will not be an issue. I thought 1190 had 2 year unlimited warranty?

it does, the R (and all other R models) are only 1 year for some reason?
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:11 PM   #99
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it does, the R (and all other R models) are only 1 year for some reason?
Ah had not caught that one yet. Bizarre.
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Old 05-09-2014, 01:13 PM   #100
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I just picked mine up a few days ago. Read this thread and took the bike off the road; so there it sits in the garage with ~ 100 miles. I was poking around online trying to find some internal e-mail addresses and was not very successful. I see many domains; ktm.com, ktmusa.com, ktmpowersports.com and others. NA President is on linkedIn and KTM has the standard Twitter and facebook accounts. Making some noise on the facebook page could get a response. I continue to hunt for an e-mail address.

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See this thread http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=976446
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:22 PM   #101
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Just pull Uni before driving to dealer for service and warranty will not be an issue. I thought 1190 had 2 year unlimited warranty?
I have recently test ridden a 2014 1190 and was making moves to buy one but have decided to hold off at the moment to see what KTM USA does for the owners. As to the quote above, this is exactly what I was "advised" to do by my local dealer when I brought up the airbox issue with them today with the proviso that I "didn't hear it from them". That's pretty wacked out advice for a potential new purchaser!
I'd say, make a noise guys, definitely post on the Facebook 1190 problems page, call the hotline and email the company. KTM don't sell enough of these bikes here yet that they can afford the bad publicity.
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Old 05-09-2014, 06:59 PM   #102
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I am a 990 guy with no 1190 experience. But I have been following this thread with interest. For those of you that don't know the 990, it comes stock with an airbox and paper filter that appears to be very similar to the one on the 1190--I could be wrong on this.

Like the 1190, the 990 was/is marketed as a combo/dual sport bike. Marketing is one thing. Actual buyer usage us another. I know some guys ride the 990 and 1190's in some seriously dusty conditions. I am one of those guys. That does't seem unreasonable to me given the nature of these bikes and the marketing, blah, blah. But I am also a long time dirt biker going back many, many years.

I have to ask myself who does KTM really expect to buy these bikes. And will they be serious/extreme dirt bike riders or mostly street bike riders. I am not making any judgement on what is the "right" use of these adventure bikes. If we like the bikes, great!

Here is my point. Most street riders (overly broad generalization) are not going to accept a bike that requires cleaning and oiling of a real dirt bike foam filter after every couple of rides. I am no expert on this. But I suspect that a real foam filter setup might be hard to get past the eco emission rules which are a fact of life these days with OEM cars and bikes.

So....Should we just give KTM a pass? No. They sold the bikes as "real" off road capable. My guess is that the lawyers will have a field day arguing over what is an "extreme" (very dusty) use of the bike, which is outside the "normal" service schedule/requirements.

In the end, I would install a foam filter if I was really going to ride some serious dirt. I would use some grease to the filter sealing areas to prevent leakage. And I would ride the hell out of it--just like a real dirt bike.

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Old 05-09-2014, 07:51 PM   #103
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Update- engine torn down will need Pistons,rings,valves,etc. basically I was in shock and didn't hear the rest!! Waiting to hear what ktm tells dealer. If they rebuild I want extra warranty for sure but will prob pull for new engine. Nightmare continues and sounds like ktm IS shaking their head at the UNi filter that may actually void your warranty as stated by people before.
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Old 05-09-2014, 08:19 PM   #104
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Old 05-10-2014, 04:36 AM   #105
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Drop in the cams from the RC8R and Ti valves and let us know.
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