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Old 05-20-2014, 05:38 AM   #16
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Yes I know it but for me 400€ to low the seat only by 1cm is too much! I think you cannot even notice the lower seat....it should be at least 2 cm...or I'd like to have the opportunity to try it before to buy...

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As far as I know, there is no lower seat than this. You'd have to talk with Touratech about try before you buy, I'm sure if you travel to their factory in Germany they'd let you.

To lower the ride height any more involves smaller wheels and shorter suspension. So one option to go lower still would be to sell the 1190 R (89 cm ride height) and get the 1190 S instead (86 cm ride height or 87.5 in the upper position). You could then use the KTM Rally Seat instead of the KTM standard seats and get a ride height of 83 cm, or get the Touratech one-piece seat and get a ride height of 82 cm.

I think your previous 'bike was an Aprillia Tuono which has an 84 cm ride height with the standard seat. Why did you buy the 1190 R version and not the 1190 S version which has a similar ride height to the Tuono?
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:43 AM   #17
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As far as I know, there is no lower seat than this. You'd have to talk with Touratech about try before you buy, I'm sure if you travel to their factory in Germany they'd let you.

To lower the ride height any more involves smaller wheels and shorter suspension. So one option to go lower still would be to sell the 1190 R (89 cm seat height) and get the 1190 S instead (86 cm seat height or 87.5 in the upper position). You could then use the KTM Rally Seat instead of the standard seats and get a seat height of 83 cm, or get the Touratech one-piece seat and get a seat height of 82 cm.

Why did you buy the 1190 R version and not the 1190 S version?
Actually I can ride it without big problems with the R seat and paying a bit more of attention with the ergo seat. I choosen the R because I like to go on gravel,tracks,Tunisia etc...
I also have a ktm 250 for enduro only. So the R is the right choose for me. The problems come when the surface is not regular so I can't touch the ground firmly. I'm 175cm.
I just would like to have 2cm more... Or 2 less in the seat :)

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Old 05-20-2014, 05:48 AM   #18
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Actually I can ride it without big problems with the R seat and paying a bit more of attention with the ergo seat. I choosen the R because I like to go on gravel,tracks,Tunisia etc...
I also have a ktm 250 for enduro only. So the R is the right choose for me. The problems come when the surface is not regular so I can't touch the ground firmly. I'm 175cm.
I just would like to have 2cm more... Or 2 less in the seat :)

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OK, here is how to lower the ride height by another 2 cm. Get the Touratech seat which they claim is more comfortable than the KTM rally seat, and which is 1 cm lower. Then raise the front forks in the triple clamps by 1.5 cm, thus lowering the front of the 1190 R by that amount, there is that amount of clearance. I've done it.

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Old 05-20-2014, 05:52 AM   #19
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OK, here is how to lower the ride height by another 2 cm. Get the Touratech seat which they claim is more comfortable than the KTM rally seat, and which is 1 cm lower. Then raise the front forks in the triple clamps by 1.5 cm, thus lowering the front of the 1190 R by that amount, there is that amount of clearance. I've done it.
Doing this maybe the geometry is corrupted.. Don't you think? Lowering only the front I mean..

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Old 05-20-2014, 06:39 AM   #20
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Doing this maybe the geometry is corrupted.. Don't you think? Lowering only the front I mean..

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It brings the geometry a little closer to the 1190 S which has 2 inch diam smaller front wheels (which is a 1 inch / 2.54 cm lower angle at the front yokes).
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Old 05-20-2014, 08:42 AM   #21
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It brings the geometry a little closer to the 1190 S which has 2 inch diam smaller front wheels (which is a 1 inch / 2.54 cm lower angle at the front yokes).
Have to disagree here Rob.
The S and the R have different forks and shock. The R is taller (more travel) and if the front is lowered the rear should be too. Been there done that with other bikes. IMHO
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Old 05-20-2014, 09:47 AM   #22
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Have to disagree here Rob.
The S and the R have different forks and shock. The R is taller (more travel) and if the front is lowered the rear should be too. Been there done that with other bikes. IMHO
For my weight (124 kg), I increased the preload on the rear shock, which brought the rear end down also.
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Old 05-20-2014, 07:19 PM   #23
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Old 05-21-2014, 01:54 PM   #25
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meanwhile my poor bike sits in the garage with 175 miles on it...
but it was nice of Renazco to squeeze me in. can't wait to break in both the seat and the whole rest of the bike.. zebra striped suede? who knew they made such a thing
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Old 05-29-2014, 02:33 PM   #29
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Yes I have both,the standard R and the ergo heated seat with sits too high for me. I'd like to find a seat wich sits lower than the R but maybe more comfortable too..

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I have the heated seats on the R model also. Was just too high for me. I took it to a local car upholsterer who took 2" from the bottom of the foam. Height is now perfect and no loss in comfort.
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Old 05-29-2014, 03:18 PM   #30
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I have the heated seats on the R model also. Was just too high for me. I took it to a local car upholsterer who took 2" from the bottom of the foam. Height is now perfect and no loss in comfort.
Did he have some difficulties to cut that extra foam?what about actual comfort respect to original? Does the heating still work?

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