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Old 05-21-2014, 12:16 PM   #1
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Registering a foreign bike in Spain

Facing the possibility to move to Spain. Selling my beloved bikes is the last option. Anyone know of the hassle to get spanish plates?
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Old 05-22-2014, 01:10 AM   #2
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is your spanish fluent?
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Old 05-22-2014, 04:37 AM   #3
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i dont think its too much hassle, last time i was there, i saw plenty of uk right hand drive cars with spanish plates
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Old 05-22-2014, 11:29 AM   #4
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is your spanish fluent?
well i'm portuguese, so historically, we can speak almost anything!

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i dont think its too much hassle, last time i was there, i saw plenty of uk right hand drive cars with spanish plates
Thats a good hint
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I said it just for the fight with bureaucracy, if the bike is European are five simple steps
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I said it just for the fight with bureaucracy, if the bike is European are five simple steps
That sounds interestingly simple. Which are?
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Old 05-22-2014, 10:54 PM   #7
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gonna answer in spanish just to identificate any office to visit:


1: Certificado de Industria del vehículo (ficha reducida), si no solicitar a un ingeniero (150€), por supuesto las motos homologadas en Europa (marcadas con una E11 o similar en los papeles de su ficha técnica) son infinitamente más sencillas de tramitar
2: Pasar la I.T.V. (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos) con la ficha reducida y abrirle expediente (80€)
3: Con el ok de la I.T.V., ir a una oficina del Ministerio de Hacienda a pagar el impuesto de matriculación (varía según el valor de la moto, la cilindrada y las emisiones de Co
4: Ir al ayuntamiento donde residas o vayas a residir y darla de alta en el impuesto municipal de circulación (depende de los Cv fiscales, fórmula entre cc y potencia)
5: Con todos estos papeles, a una oficina de tráfico a pagar la consecuente tasa (+-100€) y ya puedes ir a una tienda de repuestos o similar donde te podrán hacer las placas de matrículas con la documentación española de la moto

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Old 05-22-2014, 11:01 PM   #8
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Like most things in Spain it's much more complicated than it should be and my advice would be to use a specialist 'gestor'. Apart from anything else it saves you spending days queuing at the traffic department offices, which are only located in provincial capitals - I say 'days' because you will never have the right documentation to hand as they don't tell you in advance what you need!

The details are constantly changing and you can find lots of stuff on the ex-pat forums, with a warning that these are a breeding ground for urban mythology!

Some points to consider before you start though:

Your bike must be Type Approved in Spain, i.e. has been sold here new, lots of models aren't. If your hasn't then it's a non-starter.

You'll have to pay import duty, in effect IVA (VAT in Britain), which will be based on the price when new with a theoretical depreciation year-on-year.

If you've done any serious - or even quite minor - modifications this will make the TA stuff much more complicated, as you have to have the bike looked over by an engineer - more costs! - who pick up on almost anything. When I imported my truck the tow bar had to go as it wasn't included in the spec and the model of tow bar wasn't recognised in Spain!

On a brighter note, second hand bikes in Spain are barkingly expensive, so it may well be worth the trouble :)

Good luck, where are you moving to?

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Old 05-23-2014, 07:00 AM   #9
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Possibly Madrid area.

Given your input, my 990 Adv, has Ak cans with baffle,s but these are road legal in Europe. But usually these guys looks suspicious on aftermarket cans.. not much else, except for eated grips.

On the other hand, the 690 is seriously modified by rally raid... doesnt look good, anyone will notice the extensive mods..
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Old 05-24-2014, 01:21 AM   #10
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Possibly Madrid area.

Given your input, my 990 Adv, has Ak cans with baffle,s but these are road legal in Europe. But usually these guys looks suspicious on aftermarket cans.. not much else, except for eated grips.

On the other hand, the 690 is seriously modified by rally raid... doesnt look good, anyone will notice the extensive mods..
The cans will probably be OK as long as they satisfy emission controls and for other stuff it might be worth just taking it off for the test and refitting latter. I know 4X4 drivers who change tyres at a friendly dealer just fir the periodic ITV inspection and put the non-standard sized ones back on afterwards.

A lot depends on the ITV centre - I just disconnect my X-Tank and cover the drain pipe with sticky tape!

What you may need is a friendly KTM dealer of a few owners who will lend you some parts To this end I've messages a friend who has a workshop in Madrid who might be able to help. I've sent him the link to this topic, good luck :)

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Old 05-24-2014, 01:27 AM   #11
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gonna answer in spanish just to identificate any office to visit:


1: Certificado de Industria del vehículo (ficha reducida), si no solicitar a un ingeniero (150€), por supuesto las motos homologadas en Europa (marcadas con una E11 o similar en los papeles de su ficha técnica) son infinitamente más sencillas de tramitar
2: Pasar la I.T.V. (Inspección Técnica de Vehículos) con la ficha reducida y abrirle expediente (80€)
3: Con el ok de la I.T.V., ir a una oficina del Ministerio de Hacienda a pagar el impuesto de matriculación (varía según el valor de la moto, la cilindrada y las emisiones de Co
4: Ir al ayuntamiento donde residas o vayas a residir y darla de alta en el impuesto municipal de circulación (depende de los Cv fiscales, fórmula entre cc y potencia)
5: Con todos estos papeles, a una oficina de tráfico a pagar la consecuente tasa (+-100€) y ya puedes ir a una tienda de repuestos o similar donde te podrán hacer las placas de matrículas con la documentación española de la moto

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Well, I said it was complicated didn't I :)

Before you can do any of this you'll have to register (empadronar-se) with the town hall where you are living - and register yourself as resident, complete with ID number - NIE . and on, and on, and on . . .

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