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Old 05-16-2014, 10:13 AM   #61
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I take it that was the factory frame on that one to the viewer's left (speaker's right) in the video. I wondered if it was stock or modified since a lot of them (most every image I've seen) had the dual enclosed springs. Did Vincent use an open coil/over or enclosed?

Seems you can get images of everything BUT the rear suspension set up. I did find one that appeared to have something like a damper between the spring cases, but the darn school filter won't let me view the image (huge image too) and by the time I go home I forget.

Regardless, it is still enjoyable to me at least, to banter a bit and learn something else. Thanks.
Open coil-over. It's horizontal and up under the tank. Series D bikes are different than the B&C series.
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Old 05-16-2014, 12:04 PM   #62
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Open coil-over. It's horizontal and up under the tank. Series D bikes are different than the B&C series.

Must be most of the bikes pictured on-line are Bs and Cs. Thanks.
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Old 05-16-2014, 03:55 PM   #63
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There were very few D series bikes produced. C is the most common.
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Old 05-18-2014, 07:25 AM   #64
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Why does a single shock cost twice as much,as a pair of shocks?
It doesn't, it usually costs 2-1/2 times as much from what I've seen... go figure!
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Old 05-18-2014, 04:10 PM   #65
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It doesn't, it usually costs 2-1/2 times as much from what I've seen... go figure!
Go price a pair of Ohlins twin shocks and see. You get what you pay for.
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Old 05-19-2014, 06:03 AM   #66
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Go price a pair of Ohlins twin shocks and see. You get what you pay for.

How do they compare to the Ohlins single of similar quality? Quick look found twin shocks w/reservoirs were around $730, singles around $942. So it's even nearly true with Ohlins too.

In general, though, a decent set of twin shocks are around $350 ($175/shock), where a similar quality single will run around $450-500.
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How do they compare to the Ohlins single of similar quality? Quick look found twin shocks w/reservoirs were around $730, singles around $942. So it's even nearly true with Ohlins too.

In general, though, a decent set of twin shocks are around $350 ($175/shock), where a similar quality single will run around $450-500.
A fair amount of that price diffrence is attributable to monoshocks being a smaller (and less universal) market. Lower volume products always cost more.
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Old 05-20-2014, 05:58 AM   #68
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A fair amount of that price diffrence is attributable to monoshocks being a smaller (and less universal) market. Lower volume products always cost more.

Never really thought about it, but I definitely have to agree. Especially when fitting a piggy back reservoir. With twin shocks, it's different eyelets and maybe different lengths, but still only use a few body sizes.

So now we have an idea why the single shock is more than the twin shock set.
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Old 05-20-2014, 10:19 AM   #69
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Never really thought about it, but I definitely have to agree. Especially when fitting a piggy back reservoir. With twin shocks, it's different eyelets and maybe different lengths, but still only use a few body sizes.

So now we have an idea why the single shock is more than the twin shock set.
Monos are often more sophisticated than the twins with features like knob adjusted damping and hydraulic preload adjusters. It's nice to be able to twist a knob and compensate for a passenger.
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Monos are often more sophisticated than the twins with features like knob adjusted damping and hydraulic preload adjusters. It's nice to be able to twist a knob and compensate for a passenger.

Well, it is a breeze to adjust preload on two shocks on the sides and then there is the trick little lever set up that WP uses on their shocks to lock out the light spring when riders go two up. It is their Adjusable Rate Suspension:



They put these caps on over the light rate spring wit a lever that hits the cup. In any of the four positions the lever alters when the heavier spring takes action as the lighter rate spring becomes blocked out of action. Simple functional and seconds to do it.

It can be a lot simpler when the shock isn't buried in the center of the bike too.
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Old 07-26-2014, 10:37 PM   #71
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I think dual shock frame is inherently stronger than single.
Because of the dual shock mount, you get a super strong subframe.
On other hand, I've seen a KLX subframe (single shock) snap like a tweeg.

So if your goal is to build a pack mule and hang all kinds of luggage on it, than dual shock is superior.
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