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Old 07-26-2014, 02:07 PM   #16
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Sorry to hear it. Learn from it.
Get over it...

47 years of riding....I dropped my GSA two days ago...

Shit happens
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Old 07-26-2014, 06:07 PM   #17
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Get over it...

47 years of riding....I dropped my GSA two days ago...

Shit happens

I have "heard" in the L.E . Motor world it is not uncommon when someone gets a new bike to have a partner kick it over just to get it over with.. One of the hardest things to get over is trying to keep a bike from falling over risking injury.

Shit does happen!
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Old 07-27-2014, 02:46 AM   #18
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This was not my first bike, my first "adventure" bike though. Most of you, thanks for the good advice.... The others, that have never dropped a bike
Every now and again I plant a foot to support my little Monster at a standstill and the foot lands on something slippery or lower than expected or otherwise unsatisfactory and we ... almost ... go over.

And I think to myself: hmm, if this had been one of those big adventure tourers I was going to get, I'd have been down. Again.

You can take more care and plan ahead. But big, tall, heavy bikes are hard work at very slow speeds or when stopped. There is less margin for error.

I seem to remember a thread on the GS board here where someone asked if anyone besides him was always dropping their GSA. Lots of people chimed in with me-toos.
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Old 07-27-2014, 09:41 AM   #19
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Work on your low speed balance and handling it will give you a bit more time to decide how and when to put a foot down.

If you never drop a bike it is because you are afraid of trying new things.
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Old 07-27-2014, 10:46 AM   #20
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This was not my first bike, my first "adventure" bike though. Most of you, thanks for the good advice.... The others, that have never dropped a bike
I have never dropped my bike in the way you described but I have dropped by V Strom 4 times in its life. All times were pushing it around in camp sites etc. Same rules apply. Have a plan where to point the wheels and where to put your feet.

Kind of a funny story about V Strom Drop number 4. We were making a lot of miles riding back from Alaska and we were in the middle of no where up in the Yukon and it was raining like crazy. We were tired and ready to stop. We found a Provence camp ground and went to set up camp. My wife got off the bike. I put the side stand down and I got off. The rain was still coming down hard. I stood up the bike to put it on the center stand. When I want to do the weight shift to get it up on the center my foot slipped off and the bike fell all the way over (both wheels off the ground, all the weight on my Hepco Becker Gobi panier).

This is where it is important to be able to lift the bike yourself. And Buy good paniers so the bike doesn't fall over even further.
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Old 07-28-2014, 07:51 AM   #21
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Many of us have done the same thing. While the MSF teaches left foot down first (as part of the beginner training) I also tell my MSF students to scan/search their stops as much as other cycle riding that requires visual control. Scan/search, and plan before you make the stop, know where your foot will go down and know what to expect. RIDE on!
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:29 AM   #22
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My mate was first to drop my bike. Being used to riding a Ducati spoortsbike (and being a bit of a shortarse), he was not ready for the weight of the Explorer when we came to a stop. He leaned against the slight gradient and it was enough to have him on the ground with the bike almost on top of him.

I came close to dropping it in exactly the same situation as you OP, not paying attention to the slope of the road when i came to a stop. Strained a few muscles keeping it from tipping over and very, very slowly eased it back to vertical but it was a close call.

I have since dropped it when moving it around by hand in my driveway after a few beers (silly idea, right!).

Learn from your mistake, it's as simple as that.
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Old 07-28-2014, 01:23 PM   #23
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Guys, thanks again for the great advice. I got over dropping it five minutes after it happened, I wasn't looking for people to tell me to get over it. My last bike was a really low Harley and I was able to flat foot with my knees bent, this bike is way more maneuverable but sits way higher!

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Old 07-28-2014, 01:28 PM   #24
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Show me an 'adventure' bike that hasn't been dropped, and i'll show you a bike that's never been on an adventure.
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:20 PM   #25
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Is this your first bike?? Are we talking about your First 600 miles ?? If so I'd suggest some MSF Training.. if not then I'd suggest some time spent in parking lots learning slow speed bike control.

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Many of us have done the same thing. While the MSF teaches left foot down first (as part of the beginner training) I also tell my MSF students to scan/search their stops as much as other cycle riding that requires visual control. Scan/search, and plan before you make the stop, know where your foot will go down and know what to expect. RIDE on!
As Andy said, this oddball situation isn't covered in the MSF.

You have to prepare for the stop by getting into first gear before taking your feet off the pegs, then set your right foot down so you can lean uphill. While stopped, you have to use your right hand to activate the front brake. This complicates things leaving the stop sign, because you will need to use the same hand to transition from brake to throttle.

I think I learned this technique kickstarting dirt bikes on hills. When my wife first got her license (before she took the MSF course) she only rode around our neighborhood. We have 3 of these types of intersections, so she dropped the bike a couple of times while practicing how to do this.

I suggest finding a steep uphill you can practice on that is not side sloped. Try taking off without using the rear brake. Once you have that down, your side sloped corner will no longer be a problem.
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Old 07-28-2014, 04:58 PM   #26
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Get over it...

47 years of riding....I dropped my GSA two days ago...

Shit happens
Dropped mine Saturday, stopped for light, put my foot down on spilled diesel. Went down slow, and the big guy behind me jumped out and helped pick it up.
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Old 07-31-2014, 02:49 PM   #27
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As Andy said, this oddball situation isn't covered in the MSF.
Actually, it is now in the new revised BRC which most MSF sites are teaching this year. The new program puts all of the first 3.5 hours of class (this is the clutch, this is the sidestand, this is SEE, etc) into an online e-course that the students MUST complete AND pass on their own before even showing up for class. Class time is now spent on more actual riding scenarios, details and strategies. The emphasis is much more real on road prep, including discussion on how to stop on slopes, uphill/downhill and side slope.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:37 AM   #28
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I ride bikes that a bit too tall for me and I have to be careful when I stop in those situations. But even though I work hard at being mindful of any surface I stop at, I still manage to drop the goddam thing every now and then for the exact same reason.
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Old 08-02-2014, 05:39 AM   #29
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Dropped mine Saturday, stopped for light, put my foot down on spilled diesel. Went down slow, and the big guy behind me jumped out and helped pick it up.
Jeepers, I have done that too! Who knew diesel was so slippery!
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