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Old 01-24-2006, 09:03 AM   #16
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Impossible to tell with the information given. We need to know exactly what type and how much road riding you need.
Ya. I am thinking maybe the "lightest" part is about less weight on the back bumper of his camper rig, and/or easier to load it. And NOT because he wants to ride the most technical singletrack, which is a more usual reason. The usual answer to the lightest plated bike Q is indeed often the kitted dirtbike like the CRF somebody mentioned, or like the kitted 2-stroke that I (and many others) have. But that is if the light weight is needed for the ride not the transport.

Yes we need to hear what he wants to do on the road with it, in order to opine on the lightest bike that would do THAT (whatever "that" is) in a satisfactory manner. Agreed.
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Old 01-25-2006, 09:59 AM   #17
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I purchased a BMW Airhead. Not the lightest of the bunch thats for sure! At 410 pounds, I will be hard pressed mounting it on the back of my rig. 250lbs and less would be nice. But yes, I do plan on riding all over the state with it. So with that in mind, a light "trail" bike might suck on the road. KLR is lighter than the Airhead isnt it?
Kawasaki says the KLR has a dry weight of 337 lbs, so it is a little bit lighter. It may be a little heavier than the DRZ or similar, but if you really want to ride "all over the state", I'd definately try to make the KLR fit in your plans if I were you.
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Old 01-25-2006, 10:46 AM   #18
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Dry weight of the KLR 250 is about 250 Lbs. Better road manners than a 650. Top speed is about 85.
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Old 01-25-2006, 11:24 AM   #19
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Too bad you bought already...

I'm waiting for the SXV/RXV, Aprilia guy at the IMS said it should be here this summer.

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Old 01-25-2006, 11:31 AM   #20
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I purchased a BMW Airhead. Not the lightest of the bunch thats for sure! At 410 pounds, I will be hard pressed mounting it on the back of my rig. 250lbs and less would be nice. But yes, I do plan on riding all over the state with it. So with that in mind, a light "trail" bike might suck on the road. KLR is lighter than the Airhead isnt it?

Which BMW airhead is 410 lbs?
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:14 PM   #21
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CRF230/CFR250X weight

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The CRF230 weighs about 20lbs more than the 250x and makes about half the power. One is a competition bike the other is a play bike.
Honda lists the dry weight of the CRF230F as 238# and the CRF250X as 225# only a 13# difference. Wet weights would probably be even closer as the 250X is liquid cooled. The 250X has a lot more power but is nearly twice the cost and requires twice the maintenance. 230=6 speed 250=5 speed. Just pointing some things out, really depends on what you want to use it for.
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Old 01-25-2006, 12:33 PM   #22
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I purchased a BMW Airhead. Not the lightest of the bunch thats for sure! At 410 pounds, I will be hard pressed mounting it on the back of my rig. 250lbs and less would be nice. But yes, I do plan on riding all over the state with it. So with that in mind, a light "trail" bike might suck on the road. KLR is lighter than the Airhead isnt it?
Ron, Congrats on the Air head. I am assuming that you got something like a R1000GS or the like? I don't know what type of rig you are going to haul it with but I have a hitch rack that is rated at 400 lbs. That might be a little light for the BMW however. I am sure you could build a suitable bumper rack or the likes to haul it with. I was going to suggest a KLR but you have done the right thing. the R will be much better on the road.

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Old 01-25-2006, 12:49 PM   #23
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Yep, a KLR is lighter than an air head BMW, but not as comfy for long road rides. The husqvarna TE610 is even lighter (308 dry), but even less comfy for long trips. To the best of my knowledge there isn't a sub 300lbs bike that is comfy for long street riding.


On the hyperlight dual sport note.......

I dual sported my CR250R. Stock it weighs 213lbs dry, I probably added about 8lbs, but took some back off with light weight goodies. While I haven't dyno'd it, based on similar bikes I have seen dyno'd I should be right at 48rwhp, more than enough to do the job.

Its absolutely terrrible for the street, but that's not the point for this bike

Its not too shabby on an MX track for an old dual sport though (tag removed for flight)

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Old 07-27-2014, 11:48 PM   #24
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dual sport a klx300r?
i've seen dual sported xr200s.
xt-225 are light

...i'm interested in this old thread because i too will be needing a light bike for the back of an RV for Mexico exploration. Also need a bike that has a beefy enough rear subframe (& I will weld gussets too) that can carry 3 people as we (myself, wife and young daughter) ride around small towns alot at say 10-15 mph. My DR650 worked well in the past but I want something much lighter this time. Dual sports are best because of the passenger pegs and often stronger sub-frame. My wife sits on the rear fender while my daughter get the middle (the rear seat) and we use rescue pegs for her feet.
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Old 07-28-2014, 08:31 AM   #25
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I can easily bumper carry if need be but its big enough to ride most places. power to weight is poor tho at 50 hp. once you load them, they become a different bike. Next stop for me is a twin, the svx5.5 is 70 hp at 300 lbs and the dorso 750 is 100 hp at 420 lbs.
First option is the Aprillia 5.5 as my range is New England to the Carolinas and I prefer the dirt roads to Slab.
It seems that the twin though far less populat then the thumper (i have now) is a much better option.
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Old 07-28-2014, 05:46 PM   #26
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I know this bike is promoted to death in the thumper section, but the Yamaha WR250R is probably as good as it gets for heavy duty work. Very robust subframe plus a 6 spd gearbox and a motor that likes 65mph all day on the slab. I think probably the very best dual sport is the KTM 350 XC-F. But not as scooter-like as the little Yam. It is a real off-road machine.
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:40 PM   #27
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If you want a beefy subframe and near 350 pounds look for a 640 LC4. The various versions of this motorcycle are very competent.
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Old 08-01-2014, 05:23 AM   #28
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KE 100? Doesn't get a whole lot lighter than that
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