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Runs at Mouth Adventurer
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Across the clouds - the State Line Road Loop
![]() Avery lies deep in the heart of the wild and scenic St Joe River of north Idaho. The terrain is heavily wooded, with steep mountains descending right to the edge of the river. The few roads in the area hug the convoluted banks of the St Joe and its narrow tributaries, and wind along the windy ridge tops. Avery itself is a small scrap of a town hanging on to a past that was vibrant with logging and steam. If you are a trout fisherman, a white water rafter, or a Dual Sporter, the area is sheer heaven. Otherwise, the area is a place of No Gas, No Food and Nothun’ to Do. National Forest-391, AKA “The State Line Road”, extends from the Route of the Hiawatha’s Taft Tunnel above Avery, for 50 miles to the center access point near Little Joe Mountain, where it turns into the non-motorized State Line National Recreation Trail for another 50 miles. The river below is at about 2800 feet. The road never drops below 5000 for that first 50 mile length, so the occasional views are stunning. “Occasional”, because much of the ride is rocky single lane jeep road that burrows through the dense forest. There aren’t a huge number of views, but the ones you do find are breathtaking. Moon Pass itself is a busy parking lot full of cheerful Wallace locals on ATVs, who consider this spot to be their back yard. They use the ATV trails and forest roads on top of the mountain to access the best views and beer drinking spots. South of the Pass, the traffic is more sporadic and mainly Avery-bound tourists and fishermen Really, the best way into the area from Idaho or Washington is past the town of St Maries and up the St Joe river along paved NF-50. From Montana you can use the other end of NF-50 out of St. Regis MT. Both routes are very scenic and slow, but expect no traffic. NF-50 in MT is reportedly being paved – be prepared for construction delays. ![]() We camped at Tin Can Flat Campground, one of several established camping areas along the St Joe. Our campsite was huge by Washington standards, and only $6 per night. Scattered along the north bank of the St Joe are a few good individual free campsites. But the North Fork of the St Joe above Avery is the hot spot – with many great spots right next to the water. The plan was to ride the loop in a counterclockwise direction. We each carried extra fuel in 32 ounce MSR bottles, but running out was a real worry. My 525EXC carried 3.2 gallons, but Ryan’s KDX250 only had 1.9. I had plotted half a dozen “bail out” routes along the way, but the nearest gas in St Regis, MT would mean a 90 minute detour, and we really didn’t want to be forced into that. We figured that by going CCW we would be encountering more people the closer we got to the north end of the ride, and if one of us ran out we could transfer fuel, or coast back down the mountain to Avery and gas. ![]() ![]() Why didn’t we turn and go back? Simple – the odds of encountering more moose by turning back were just as high as if we just stayed where we were. So we needed to deal with this situation and keep going. Fortunately, Momma Moose, grunting and her hackels up, suddenly jumped into the trees with her babies and disappeared from view. Unfortunately she went uphill, and we were sure we would encounter her standing in the middle of the road around the next turn. Ryan went ahead of me, and I kept the Bear Spray and my pistol near at hand. He rode slowly and carefully, fully expecting a monstrous brown shape to leap out at him from behind a tree. When he had determined that there wasn’t any threat, we both took off at normal speed. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() https://home.comcast.net/~storagedavies/SLR-026-Pan.jpg https://home.comcast.net/~storagedavies/SLR-027-Pan.jpg ![]() ![]() ![]() https://home.comcast.net/~storagedavies/SLR-033-Pan.jpg After 50 miles of cruising the ridge tops we came to the end of the State Line Road. These 10 last miles are more heavily travelled, and we began to see ATVs and a few dual sport bikes. The huckleberries were ripe, and I expect many of those riders were harvesting them. I hope they had Bear Spray…. These roads get very little maintenance, and the heavy ATV traffic has made them rutted and nasty, with lots of loose fist-sized rocks ready to catch you unaware. Compared to the first part of the ride, we had to concentrate much harder on riding a clean line. At Roland Summit we had a choice: drop down the east side about 2 miles to East Portal, the eastern entrance to the 1.7 mile Taft Tunnel, or continue down toward Avery. Since Ryan’s bike was running on fumes by now, we chose to skip East Portal. Maybe next time… http://www.skilookout.com/hiaw/history.html Ryan and I plan to come back next summer with bigger fuel tanks to explore more of this historic area. We also will repeat the State Line Loop Ride, and plan to invite others to join us. Next year we will give plenty of warning so perhaps we can share the experience. The GPS DATA (tracks and waypoints): Garmin format: http://www.spokanister.net/GPS_Data/..._Road_Loop.gdb Universal format: http://www.spokanister.net/GPS_Data/..._Road_Loop.gpx If you have Google Earth, set the terrain exageration to "2" and check out the scenery using the above "gpx file. It's incredible. John Davies Spokane WA EDIT 02/01/07: My home page has moved to here: http://www.spokanister.net/ I've left the pics at the old site to keep this thread alive, but all the data and any new stuff is now at my new bigger site. You would be redirected from the old to new site anyway, but I thought I should also post this info here. Thanks. JD John E Davies screwed with this post 03-09-2007 at 07:59 AM. |
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Charges have been dropped
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: West Chester, PA
Oddometer: 914
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Great report, enjoyed it!
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Viel Spass, Vato!
Joined: Nov 2003
Location: San Antonio, Tx
Oddometer: 22,444
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Wow. You really busted it for us on this report. Thank you.
What a beautiful area. I hope to go there some day. ![]() |
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ADV Plenipotentiary
Joined: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON
Oddometer: 45,024
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That's some ride and great pics!
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Pasadena, CA
Oddometer: 314
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Very interesting report. Thanks!
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Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Tennessee
Oddometer: 500
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Great report!!!
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Studly Adventurer
Joined: Apr 2004
Location: Hutchinson, KS USA
Oddometer: 571
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Awesome! Beautiful area!
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Yakitty Shmakitty.....
Joined: Feb 2006
Location: Medical Lake. WA
Oddometer: 52
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Great Ride, Good Company, and a camp fire to boot.
This was a great ride. The only trouble was the gas. I cant believe Kawasaki didn’t put a larger tank on a dual sport. 1.9 gallons is ok for a small town but no where near sufficient for forest roads and trail riding. If I’m lucky (and going a reasonable speed) I get 100 miles to the tank. I knew we were going to see moose. We had come across them before and I had done some research on the net about them. Now I was worried, turns out they aren’t very nice (or smart) and would just as soon stomp on you than walk away. The ones you need to worry about are the Mothers. Of course the only moose we come across is a Mother and two babies. We both are aware of how they act and decide to wait awhile. We agreed leaving our helmets on would be a good idea. After about five minutes and no sign of her leaving I decide to sneak in for a picture. http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n116/Ginsu4u/IMG_0718.jpg. John was backing me up with a Glock and a BIG can of Bear spray. She finally got bored messing with us and moved up the hill (the way we were going) and disappeared. It was a slow ride for about a half mile. I was expecting to get jumped by a large pissed off moose but all was well and we continued on. Our first great view into Montana was also the first sign of cell phone reception. We had a great signal as long as we stood right on the edge of the cliff but move a few feet and it was gone. The wind coming up the cliff was hellacious. It blew up my nose so hard I sounded like an old telephone operator while I was talking with my wife. John marked this on his GPS as a good camp site. Next year I will camp there and hike down to the nice little lake at the bottom. There was a steep trail leading down but it looked well used. The hike down will be no problem but getting back up is gonna hurt. Looked like a perfect fishing lake. Too many restrictions on the St. Joe to make it a good fishing river. Great fish in the St. Joe but you cant do anything with them, (barbless hooks, no live bait, catch and release) what’s the fun in that. I was starting to get nervous about fuel at this point and was limiting my exploring to the planned ride. John had a little more fuel than me so he was still wanting to check out the lookouts and small roads off the main track. He found a real nice lookout and I stayed behind to sit on the cliff and photograph my boots. Soon enough John came back down and said, "you have to go up there, if you run out of gas I will give you some of mine". I was a little worried about my hill climbing skills but he was sure I would make it and gave me some pointers that I TRIED to follow. I’m glad I went up, it was a spectacular view. Getting down was another story. I need some practice standing up while going down steep inclines. I sat down at the wrong time and got stopped in the middle of the trail with John right behind me. Sorry. Running on vapors now we headed toward Avery. At a small rest stop for the bikers we say an old guy with several gas cans that were just calling my name. When we went over to his campsite he says. "I new you guys was gonna come over and ask for some gas". He gave us enough each to easily make it back to camp. He was very nice and we stayed and talked for awhile while I layed in the dirt and rested my sore back. Turned out he had worked for years just a few blocks down the street from my house in the small town of Medical Lake. Small world. Taft tunnel was cool. The giant doors made me feel like we were going to rescue Fay Wray on the other side. I was expecting to explore the Taft tunnel but the eight more tunnels on the way to Avery were a surprise. A most beautiful ride down to camp thru those tunnels. Our bikes sounded REALLY good in those tunnels. I was a little worried about things falling from the ceiling but all was well and they looked well taken care of. I hope that next year we can entice some extra riders into joining us. We will camp longer next year and hopefully break up the rides into smaller less punishing loops. Usually I don’t get too sore from riding but I felt this one. One thing that helped was a pair of Lycra/Spandex bike shorts with a large Maxi-pad sewn in. Very uncomfortable at first but I wouldn’t ride without them now, what a difference. We logged in 117 miles on my odometer. What a fun ride. Shooting the day before the ride was great also. Blowing stuff up is a lot of fun. John was a very safe person to shoot with and we diligently cleaned up our mess when we were done. All in all a great camping trip. Thanks to John for the company, the GPS tracks and all the planning that went into that, and most of all for putting up with me.
Ryan.
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Canyonlands or bust!
Joined: Apr 2004
Location: Pacific Northwet
Oddometer: 2,129
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One more for my list of "to-dos"
North ID and W MT are great DS country. Gotta go see it! Thanks for the report, John! Maybe I need to bring my GasGas for the trials section! I love those hiker trails with an open sign for a M/C. I think the Forest Circus doesn't think anyone can ride 'em! HA!
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Banned
Joined: Jul 2006
Location: Pedernales R., Tx Hill Country (Ihadthisavatar1st)
Oddometer: 1,768
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I am blown away.
![]() This has got to be the perfect ride. What a fantastic report! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() There will be more folks out there next time you go. ![]() Thanks. ![]() |
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Just passing thru
Joined: Jul 2005
Location: Moscow, Idaho
Oddometer: 2,220
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Glad to see you made that ride. In the 60's I drove that road to Ward Peak once a week. It is my third favorite road in the St Joe.
Fishook Cr. Road was the main haul road from the Roundtop Mt area. Would you like to meet a loaded log truck in that tunnel? As kids do we climbed the cliff over the tunnel and threw rocks into the creek. I often saw logs or trucks splattered on these roads. Anyone into bicycles should run the Hiawatha Trail. BIG trestles and really black tunnels. Very rugged country that most people don't see. The St Joe is an Idaho jewel for big trailies.
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Runs at Mouth Adventurer
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Thanks once more for supplying me with all that valuable insider knowledge that helped me plan the ride. There are SO many tantalizing side routes off the main loop we did, that it will take many weekends to fully ride just the immediate area around the St Joe. It is drop-dead gorgeous country. The only negative part is the lack of gas stations and the extreme dust on some of the heavily travelled low-altitude dirt roads, like the one over Moon Pass. If you can carry lots of fuel, and stick to the side roads and ridge tops, the ride is an extremely satisfying one. However, it is NOT a hard core ride. Even a newbie on a stock dual sport can do it easily, assuming he can carry enough fuel. I sure am hoping to spark some interest for another State Line Loop ride for the end of next Summer. It will have to be in August, when the snow is all gone high up. John Davies Spokane WA |
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Studly Adventurer
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Nice trip report, very well done. Thanks for taking the time to post it. Plus it looked like a lot of fun.
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Gnarly Adventurer
Joined: Apr 2006
Location: Omaha
Oddometer: 130
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Great Report
Thanks for taking the time to make this ride report. The woods up there look beautiful! Seems like perfect rider country if you have enough gas!
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Formerly H20Pumper
Joined: Sep 2002
Location: Steinbeck Country, California 93908
Oddometer: 1,131
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Nice trip report! I have done the Hiawatha a few times on the MTBike. Yeah its alot of money, but we have always done an out and back and not the shuttle. I heard they were going to extend it all the way to ST Regis?
Thanks for the pictures and route. |
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