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Old 07-27-2008, 05:55 PM   #16
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One more bike worth looking at that might be better suited to your needs is the KTM690 Adventure. It has plenty of power, and weighs barely over 315lbs.

I owned a 950, and while the bike was capable, something about wrestling a very heavy expensive bike around in the dirt kept me off a lot of trails I woould have easily ridden on a 690.
The 990 fuel tanks are expensive and can break.
I've seen good riders do amazing things on the 990's, but they bought the bikes to ride hard and were willing to pay the price.
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Old 07-27-2008, 06:41 PM   #17
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"I've seen good riders do amazing things on the 990's, but they bought the bikes to ride hard and were willing to pay the price."

This statement well sums up riding ANY of the big ADV bikes on or off road. If one is a very competent rider, rides hard, and is willing to pay the price, both in personal injury and damage to the bike, then just about any of the big ADV bikes can be handled like a pro on or off road.

Dare I say for the majority of us mere mortals it is in the skill and physical conditioning department that holds us to lower levels of perfection when riding the big guys, especially off road.

A great rider willing to pay the price of replacing machinery more frequently than the guy who wants to get 50-100,000 miles out of his ride can ride the humble DL 650 Suzuki quite proficiently off road, and do it far better than one of us lesser skilled and daring members riding a 950/990 or the 800GS.

It's all in the skill, juevos, and budget if the bike is to be ridden hard and treated as disposable.
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Old 07-27-2008, 09:16 PM   #18
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One more bike worth looking at that might be better suited to your needs is the KTM690 Adventure. It has plenty of power, and weighs barely over 315lbs.
I don't believe it has even been officially announced yet by KTM, so we're probably at least a year or two away from shipping, probably more in the US.

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Old 07-28-2008, 06:47 AM   #19
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I talked to the KTM guys at mid ohio this weekend about a 690Adventure. I demo'ed the 690 Duke and loved the motor so I started asking about a 690A and the 3 dealers that where there and the demo crew all said that it was a long shot. They all said that sales were so low on the 640A's that it would take a huge market shift for KTM to release a 690A. I was bummed :( I cant believe the balls that 690 has. Its amazing for a single.

So I rode the 990A. WOW was all I could say. Perfect motor, roll on power in any gear at any RPM. It felt light for a big bike, the brakes were excellent and it handled great. Standing up over the bars felt just like a dirt bike. I LOVED that bike and its on the top of my list right now. The reliability issues and upper 30's MPG's are my only concerns. I really need a bike with a better tank range.
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Old 07-28-2008, 06:56 AM   #20
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One more bike worth looking at that might be better suited to your needs is the KTM690 Adventure. It has plenty of power, and weighs barely over 315lbs.
The 690 Enduro weighs that much. How would the Adventure version not carry any extra weight? And does the 690 Adventure even exist?
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Old 07-28-2008, 08:47 AM   #21
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My mistake.
I meant the straight 690, not the A. Claimed weight is 305lbs.
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Old 07-28-2008, 04:31 PM   #22
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f800gs-1000 miles review

I just rented one of these brand new from Moto Mader in Switzerland. Impressive bike. I rode it about 1500KM in 4 days through Swiss and Italian Alps near Andermatt and Pontresea (sp?). Mostly street but some dirt fire road type things. I am about 6"1" and about 205# and ride a Buell Ulysses at home along with a DRZ400 and a RMX250 Suzuki

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1)Seat and riding position=super comfortable
2)Great Luggage
3)ABS makes the brakes feel soft so I had it off most of the time except in really sketchy conditions (0 degrees and rain/snow)-nice to have a choice I guess
4)good power through the range for a light great handling bike like this fully loaded--not camping just hoteling it but had a lot of stuff because I had work samples with me and my laptop and stuff (about 60lbs of gear extra)
5) super stable off road with big dirt bike style foot pegs (removed rubber pads) and high and wide handlebars (good quality bars too)
6) heated grips rock! 2 positions-low and hot. With only leather gloves and some very cold temps these were great
7) minimal damage when dumped over--I layed it down once at 0 mph on a gravely righthand uphill switchback on day 2 looking for a lower gear fully loaded. It was a bitch to pick up because it was so new I didn't want to throw it over so the wheels would be downhill like I would have my DRZ. This was rider error but a lower gear would have definitely helped. Basically a gouge on the saddlebag and a scratch on the handguard was all I saw from that.
8) decent wind protection from stock shield. I was packing light and didn't have the full compliment of gear I have in the states but was pretty comfortable with the heated grips and protection on the bike

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1) Leaked oil from day one--I think someone overfilled it maybe? It was leaking high in the top end somewhere. Never enough for me to refill but significant enough to spray my left pant leg pretty good-probably 4 oz or so in that amount of miles. I found a guy with some tools and retorqued the side case a bit thinking that was it but it wasn't.
2) headllight fell off attachments but was still wired in--not tightened enough at factory?--duct taped initially stopped at a hardware store and replace bolts no more trouble
3) zipper pulls on the tank bag broke the first day due to harder to use waterproof-type zippers I think.
4) could have used a lower 1st gear (see #7 above)

In the just one bike category, if the engine turns out to be decent and the oil thing was a fluke, I would say this is a great choice and you could go most places on this bike save the real gnarly off road single track type stuff and maybe with some full knobbies you could even do that although not really what the bike would be good at. One of the best 4 day m/c rides you can take if you have the time and are in the area IMO.

no nothing about the 990--sorry
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