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Old 12-13-2008, 10:27 PM   #46
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Just keep a candle burning. You would be surprised how the temp difference it makes.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:43 PM   #47
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Kifaru... This is my 4 man tipi with medium stove...



The stove is very compact...


Words just do not do this system justice.
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Old 12-13-2008, 10:58 PM   #48
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Kifaru... This is my 4 man tipi with medium stove...



The stove is very compact...


Words just do not do this system justice.

Hey Angryscot, do you have one of these yet?
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Old 12-14-2008, 10:44 AM   #49
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what are the walls of the kirfaru tent made out of?

it looks to be 2 layers, is it coated poly for the outer ( tarp) layer?

I want to make one.

also, whats the duration or burn time of those little stoves?
\from reading the forums ( kifaru) they seem to reload the stoves like every half hour or so?
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Old 12-14-2008, 12:54 PM   #50
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Good bag (0 North Face) + Exped Downmat mattress has kept me warm and toasty well into single digits (coldest I've camped in).

Just too many bad outcomes possible from heater inside tent, IMO.
Although, an old trick is to build two pit fires and bury the second one with a foot of soil then sleep on the top. Some of the truly woodsy types have confirmed this this method. I have a -20 bags and with added heat retention layers have been down near 0 F.
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Old 12-14-2008, 02:01 PM   #51
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candle powered tent heater.
It can sit on the floor or hang from the ceiling, I use a 10 hour votive candle, light the candle when your turn in, and it burns all night long. I won't really heat the tent much, but does make a difference in the condensation from your breath in cold weather.
The ends of the rods will get hot enough to melt nylon, so it needs to be kept away from sleeping bag, tent wall, etc.
I also made a shorter, fatter version with the heating rods spaced closer together, and nearer to the top. The fatter one will hold a soup can, or coffee cup on top, and an extra row of holes around the top keeps the flame from being extinguished.
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Old 12-14-2008, 06:03 PM   #52
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I've been able to get the tent a toasty 70 degrees using a Coleman XtremeCat Catalytic heater. The burn time on a single cylinder is over 13 hours...very fuel efficient. I would rather have a Kifaru Tipi and tent wood stove, but its beyond my current budget.

Running a heater in your tent can be dangerous if you don't provide the recommend ventilation. The Catalytic process burns the fuel without a flame (Flame less) so there is less chance of igniting your tent than with a stove or lantern.

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Whether you're burning with a flame or with a catalyst, the chemical reactions are the same.

Propane + oxygen --> CO2 + water

And if there's a lack of oxygen:

Propane + Oxygen --> CO (carbon monoxide) + water

Either one will consume the oxygen in your tent. And either one will produce CO.

Be careful out there.
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:27 AM   #53
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candle powered tent heater.
It can sit on the floor or hang from the ceiling, I use a 10 hour votive candle, light the candle when your turn in, and it burns all night long. I won't really heat the tent much, but does make a difference in the condensation from your breath in cold weather.
The ends of the rods will get hot enough to melt nylon, so it needs to be kept away from sleeping bag, tent wall, etc.
I also made a shorter, fatter version with the heating rods spaced closer together, and nearer to the top. The fatter one will hold a soup can, or coffee cup on top, and an extra row of holes around the top keeps the flame from being extinguished.
And seeing these first hand I think they are great... I still want one
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:30 AM   #54
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what are the walls of the kirfaru tent made out of?

it looks to be 2 layers, is it coated poly for the outer ( tarp) layer?

I want to make one.

also, whats the duration or burn time of those little stoves?
\from reading the forums ( kifaru) they seem to reload the stoves like every half hour or so?
The walls are silnylon I think... It has a liner that makes all the difference (it is an option)

As far as the burn times, I can get 45 mins to an hour out of a stoked stove... plenty of time to turn in for the night. In the morning you can stick an arm out, stoke the fire and turn back in for a quick snooze, wake up in tee shirt weather and enjoy the morning while you get dressed... heat your coffee water at the same time then cook breakfast. Tipi life is good, VERY good
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Old 12-15-2008, 02:53 AM   #55
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OK, I gotta ask ... where and why the hell are you camping when it's -63
Canadian Military on the western shore of Hudson Bay. It gets a bit chilly up there. You should see what you can do without a tent. Snow caves can be very warm.
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Old 12-15-2008, 07:55 AM   #56
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Just keep a candle burning. You would be surprised how the temp difference it makes.

IMHO this is the best and safest way to bring up temps in a small backpackers style tent. There are some enclosed candle lanterns which are very effective in lighting and providing some heat.
They are the standard for backcountry trips in winter.

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Old 12-15-2008, 08:36 AM   #57
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I heard this one yesterday. Hair dryer and an extension cord. It only works when camped at a campground with electricity available but there's no CO problem.
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Old 12-15-2008, 09:07 AM   #58
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I heard this one yesterday. Hair dryer and an extension cord. It only works when camped at a campground with electricity available but there's no CO problem.
Might work ok until one of your camp neighbors came over and beat your ass because of the noise
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Old 12-15-2008, 10:47 AM   #59
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How cold...?
Hot rock at my feet stayed warm all night at about 15 F.
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Old 12-15-2008, 11:10 AM   #60
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If you're going to have a fire, line rocks around the fire pit and before going to bed dig an area out where you plan to sleep, put the hot rocks in this area and cover with at least 4" of soil. suggest you do this at the feet, torso, and head. You'll stay warm and toasty with no worries of harmful fumes.
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