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Old 03-13-2009, 10:39 AM   #1051
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Do you guys think the dealer would raise the forks and adjusting the rear shock "lollipop" to raise the rear as part of my, fitting process?
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:52 AM   #1052
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Do you guys think the dealer would raise the forks and adjusting the rear shock "lollipop" to raise the rear as part of my, fitting process?
If I were the dealer, I'd not due to liability issues. He's opening up himself to a 'gimme' lawsuit if you ever crash.

I hate this legal system we have. It just stinks.
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:50 AM   #1053
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If I were the dealer, I'd not due to liability issues. He's opening up himself to a 'gimme' lawsuit if you ever crash.

I hate this legal system we have. It just stinks.
Are you saying raising the bike will make it less stable? If so are the 2007-08 bikes more stable because they are raised an inch more than the 09's?
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Old 03-13-2009, 12:13 PM   #1054
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If I were the dealer, I'd not due to liability issues. He's opening up himself to a 'gimme' lawsuit if you ever crash.

I hate this legal system we have. It just stinks.
There should be no problem, it is a standard adjustment for the bike -- it is not a case of making an adjustment counter to the manufacturer's recommendations. It is an easy adjustment to do yourself -- I in fact will raise the height of my bike back up a bit as I have my bike on a lift to change a rear flat -- but why not ask for it to be included as part of the purchase?

BTW, don't try to turn that lock nut and adjustment screw with the rear shock still attached to the swingarm. You need to pull the bolt out of the swingarm; loosen the lock nut; and then turn the bottom eye bolt of the shock to the desired position. Of course you need the right tools, including a rather large hex driver or socket ...
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:39 PM   #1055
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Are you saying raising the bike will make it less stable? If so are the 2007-08 bikes more stable because they are raised an inch more than the 09's?
I have no idea. I do know that modding the suspension out of the design will expose the dealer to a suit - and the suit will prevail - if you crash. It's a guarantee.

Reason has nothing to do with it nor does engineering. It's all in our legal system which will kill the dealer if *anything* were to happen to you.
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:44 PM   #1056
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BTW, don't try to turn that lock nut and adjustment screw with the rear shock still attached to the swingarm. You need to pull the bolt out of the swingarm; loosen the lock nut; and then turn the bottom eye bolt of the shock to the desired position. Of course you need the right tools, including a rather large hex driver or socket ...
This sounds cool! I looked at my bike and saw what you're talking about.

How far can you unscrew the "lollypop" without compromising the integrity of the assembly? It seems like a mere 1/4" would result in a ~1" increase at the rear wheel.
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Old 03-13-2009, 10:57 PM   #1057
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This sounds cool! I looked at my bike and saw what you're talking about.

How far can you unscrew the "lollypop" without compromising the integrity of the assembly? It seems like a mere 1/4" would result in a ~1" increase at the rear wheel.
well, there are "adjustment" ranges given in a few places for the X-Co bikes, you could do some measuring to make sure you are well within the maximums of the range and then use the ratio (based on the lever arm difference between the shock attachment and the axle like you described) to decide how much adjustment you think is safely left in the shock - that should keep you well within safe margins because it should stay within what BMW would be willing to do for you at their shop... Beyond that I'd want to pull it all the way apart, see how much extra thread there is on the male lollipop rod, and look at how deep the female threads extend into the shock body before I'd do anything outside the normal range...
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Old 03-13-2009, 11:30 PM   #1058
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I haven't pulled apart my rear end yet, but this info about the lollipop from Somber is a revelation. Does anybody have the Shop Manual? Wouldn't the Shop Manual have info about ride height adjustments? Seems to me that if BMW provides a shock on the bike that can be adjusted for ride height, then it's gotta be OK to adjust the ride height.

I just finished putting stiffer springs in my forks (.57kg replacing the OEM .47kg) that reduced my front sag by about an inch. Was planning on swapping out the shock spring too. But if I can adjust my ride height in the rear by an inch, that might be all I need.
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:44 AM   #1059
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I haven't pulled apart my rear end yet, but this info about the lollipop from Somber is a revelation.
A revelation, indeed! I'd assumed (that d*mn word!) that the lollipop was an assembly point, not an adjustment point. But it makes sense ... if it wasn't intended to be adjusted, it would be part of the casting (or forging).

If someone has definitive knowledge, please let the inmates know!
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Old 03-14-2009, 04:03 PM   #1060
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rear shock adjustment

BTW, a while back I had my rear shock replaced under warranty. I asked the BMW shop to set it to the lowest adjustment position (so the bike sits teh lowest). The "eye" bolt was screwed in all the way. When I bought my bike it was adjusted to to the hightest riding position. AFAIR, there is about 3/4" of range. I just adjusted it to about mid-way, and dropped the front end by about 7 mm. You guys with '09s might want to find out also if my recollection is correct that the 09 shock is shorter. That might mean the longest rear shock adjustment on an 09 may not correspond to forks fully pulled down.
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Old 03-14-2009, 07:40 PM   #1061
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Cee Bailey

So no one has a Cee Bailey windshield and a pic? Cuts deep, not wonder they are so expensive then... no ones buying
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Old 03-15-2009, 09:49 PM   #1062
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Update: The dealer said they would raise the bike for me as part of the prep and fitting to my specs for me if I buy the bike.
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Old 03-15-2009, 11:10 PM   #1063
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Cee Bailey windshield

I think it's the tallest windshield they have. Perhaps the smaller ones look better, but this blocks the wind well for me (I'm 5'9"). I get a bit of wind in my face and higher but below the chin is totally dead air. I do a lot of highway riding to get to and from work.



It came with the windshield already attached to the brackets. Very easy installation. By the time I unfolded the instructions, we already had it installed.


An odd thing happened, one of the welds broke where the bracket meets the part that clamps to the handlebars, a couple of months after it was installed. Cee Bailey sent me another bracket immediately. I haven't installed it yet (What? It's winter!) so I don't know if it was a bad weld or bad design.
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Old 03-16-2009, 08:45 AM   #1064
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I think it's the tallest windshield they have. Perhaps the smaller ones look better, but this blocks the wind well for me (I'm 5'9"). I get a bit of wind in my face and higher but below the chin is totally dead air. I do a lot of highway riding to get to and from work.



It came with the windshield already attached to the brackets. Very easy installation. By the time I unfolded the instructions, we already had it installed.


An odd thing happened, one of the welds broke where the bracket meets the part that clamps to the handlebars, a couple of months after it was installed. Cee Bailey sent me another bracket immediately. I haven't installed it yet (What? It's winter!) so I don't know if it was a bad weld or bad design.
Thanks for posting! It seems odd that you still get wind blast on half of your helmet only being 5'9" with a 22" shield. I'm 6' and was intending to make due with the 18" midsize Euro. Yikes! Good to know they took care of your bracket problem. I may order through the 8% discount place- https://www.riderspecialties.com/sto...cat=307&page=1

Anyone else have one?
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Old 03-16-2009, 12:37 PM   #1065
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Is that an airhawk seat pad? It looks like it fits nicely on the bike filling up the "step" in the seat. What size is it?

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