So I have to wonder if I've lost my mind. Finally after a long time I got a chance to test ride a 2014 R1200GS. I've test rode the Super Tenere and went away from that feeling like it was lacking a bit. The R1200GS on the other hand was a night and day difference in my opinion. The power of it and low end torque was just lovely. It had no problem getting moving with plenty to spare with my wife and myself on it. Just left me with a good afterwards. Now I'm lusting after it. Sigh. 1 year to go... To add to this, the GS had the dynamic suspension. It certainly changed the way it rode. Was nice having it adjust to the road conditions. Wish I could have tested some of the other features, but the ride wasn't long enough. Main concern was it's power compared to the Super Tenere.
Getting the S10 flashed makes it feel similar to the GS. If you want even more power, add Arrow headers and a can of your choice.
Sorry, should have been clearer. No, the power on the GS was just right. Super Tenere was a bit lacking.
I had a S10 with headers, air box, PCV, and custom tune and the heavier GSA which I purchased stock motor blows it away. The other features and quality is much better. I felt the Yamaha plastic bits look cheap and many of the stamped steel guards are ugly. Fork seals went early and many fasteners corroded. Engine ran good but trans was always sticky when shifting.
I have to ask for clarification and based on your signature. Are you saying the Yamaha has better quality or the GSA was? After you mentioned the steel guards are ugly I wasn't sure which one your were talking about and I see you own a 12 Super T. I'm certainly not trying to start a debate. Was just expressing how I felt about each bike. You have to go with with moves you, and I seem to be strangely attracted to the less common ones on the road.
My S10 must be defective. Even with a flash it DOES NOT make the power(about 12-15 HP less then a stock GSW) or have the linear throttle response of the GSW, and my S10 doesn't have Endure Pro, integrated GPS, LED lighting, or Shift Assist Pro, etc.... But my Yamaha S10 does have excessive clutch vibration, a loud and failing cam chain adjuster, is prone to spoke and wheel failures, and weighs about 60 lbs. more then the GS...... just say'n. Paul
Surprised you've kept it this long with all the problems it's suffering from. You must be a glutton for punishment...
I did not have enough coffee this morning, I do not understand what I wrote! I traded the Tenere in June for a new 2014 GSA. The stock BMW blows the Tenere away in all performance areas and is much more comfortable, gets better fuel economy, and is the most enjoyable bike I have ever owned.
2015 GSA is inbound, ETA 2-3 weeks.. I did it for Dallara, when he heard the news he said he was "giddy" with excitement. :eek1 My 1st BMW was a new 60/5 and I was hooked on the boxer motor so, on occasion, I return to the marque for my boxer fix. I've enjoyed the Super Tenere for over two years and 26k miles, it's time for a change. Paul
Sorry if this has been done already, but I haven't found the issue discussed in a conclusive way. I was at the service station this morning trying to put air in my tires. I couldn't get the long and straight chuck to engage the valves on my spoked wheels. Since this is a common enough issue, I carry a valve extender with a 90 degree bend. When I put that on my GS, even screwed down tight it wasn't anywhere near the point where it could depress the piston inside the tire valve. So what's the story? Is the valve on a GS non-standard (none of my other bikes have had this problem) or is there something else going on? I've found a thread or two where people discussed this, some saying that they use a bicycle-tire pump. But I'm worried that if I try a hand pump I'll let air out and have no way to reinflate.
You can buy 82-degree angle tire valves. They work very well. http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/tire_valves/
Thanks for the reply, but your link specifically rules out my bike. I have a 2013 liquid cooled GS with spoked wheels and TPM. So far I can't find any discussion, but a friend with a similar bike has reported the same problem. I'm surprised this isn't discussed more widely if it is a universal issue.
Sorry to hear that. The other solution that comes to mind would be to carry a small pump, like the one sold by Motopumps, and just use that. Good luck. http://www.motopumps.com/
I can't get the service station air hose to fit on my 2013 GS tire valves. As far as I know, I have the standard valves (purchased bike second hand so can't be 100 per cent sure), but can't inflate the tires at the station, and also can't get my 90 degree valve adapter to work. I've never had this problem with other bikes. The only solution I've found so far is to use my bicycle pump. That is fine as long as I don't need air while away from home.
Very interesting. My only reservation with the Motopump is that since I have not found the root cause of the problem, I don't know that this will be a solution. My assumption is that this will fit the same valves as the device found at the service station. I don't want to pay to get one of these to Australia, only to find out that it doesn't work. I might need to carry a small pump, as you suggested. I had one in the underseat kit on my DL650, which I never had to use. But I haven't had one on the GS.