Show us your TransAlp modifications!

Discussion in 'Japanese polycylindered adventure bikes' started by modrover, Apr 13, 2004.

  1. mas335

    mas335 xendurist

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    That is a major problem that I have with most of the Enduro style helmets that I have tried, distortion and the shields only go up about 75% of the way.

    As gezzerly as Ladder makes it sound I am kinda leaning towards a modular, one question I have is about riding with the face guard up, at least at slow speeds and for short durations for some ventilation. I know you are not suppose to use them like that but does anyone do it and is it a big deal?

    I know about the claims that modulars are not as strong as standard full face but I gotta say I don't worry about things like that.

    If I rode a Hardly the choice would be so much simplier, "I'll take one half shell flat black helmet to go please!" I live in a chrome and crotch rocket town so you know what the helmet selection looks like but I am hitting the shops today.
  2. AppFan

    AppFan Long timer

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    The Nolan is made for that, has a locking mechanism for the up position.
    From their site:
    The new N104 is P/J approved, in compliance with the legislation currently in force UN/ECE 22-05 for Europe, DOT FMVSS-218 for USA. P/J approval allow the motorcyclist to ride the vehicle both with open and closed chin guard, in compliance with the current legislation in force.
  3. TRBaron

    TRBaron Been here awhile

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    I run the digital CDIs from germany.
    http://www.motorbike-shop.de/index.php?a=2892&lang=eng

    I have yet to hear of anyone having problems with them.
  4. Blackbert

    Blackbert Factory Rambler

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    Have a look here. It's in German, but you're from Denmark, so you will probably understand it. :D
    If you can get your (digital) hands on a Haynes manual, all the changes are listed there as well. AFAIK, from 1994 to 1996, everything is the same or will at least bolt right on.
    Wiki
    Those microfiches may be helpfull too. Note they jump from 94 to 96, so no changes in 95. :wink:
  5. Big Chris

    Big Chris Adventurer

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  6. Big Chris

    Big Chris Adventurer

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  7. Big Chris

    Big Chris Adventurer

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    <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:View>Normal</w:View> <w:Zoom>0</w:Zoom> <w:Compatibility> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument> </xml><![endif]--> Part 2. of the story of my tall transalp..

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    OK, I have to confess I like mad max movies, and I like the idea of bikes from a dystopian future. I like survival bikes.

    ItÂ’s worth pointing out that IÂ’ve always hated polishing or cleaning my bikes, IÂ’d far rather ride them than clean them. My motto is

    “chrome won’t get you home”

    So with that in mind I set about converting my tall alp into a mad max 2 style survival bike.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...020010-%202012_transalpphotosfromphone057.jpg



    Where my last article finished up last time was with my bike looking like this, with twin headlights already on, wired in and working. I'd kept the original dashboard so that could compare the accuracy of the trailtech vapor handlebar mounted speedo. The speedo function of the vapor is accurate, it keeps pace with the actual road speed changing, so I was happy with the speedo function. The rev-counter function was an utter nightmare to set up, and is only accurate when the revs are steady, just sitting on a highway at the speed limit. I use the clock function, and I zero one of the distance recorders when I fuel up. I have kept the original radiator fan wiring installed and installed the trailtech water temp guage but I honsetly wish I hadnÂ’t bothered with that either. Plus, adding insult to injury the supplied mounting handlebar clamp was useless with a cushion on the brace bar of my renthals, so I had some mounting brackets machined up. I donÂ’t recommend the vapor but I do have some spares of those mounting brackets for sale, in polished silver aluminiumÂ….

    It ended up looking like this, I made up a bank of LEDs for warning lights. I know LEDs look cool and trick and bling high tech but theyÂ’re a pain in the arse. They are sensitive to the direction of current (dÂ’oh, thatÂ’s why itÂ’s a diode), they blow without warning, and you canÂ’t tell if its blown or not, they are quite dim in sunlight (so is a bulb though), and after they blow they are hard to replace, out with the soldering iron. Advice: if you must retro fit LEDs where you used to have bulbs fit a resistor to the feed wire. More advice: donÂ’t bother, stick to bulbs. That metal housing the LEDS sit in is the foot from a old pedestal fan. I now have a black fan with white feet salvaged from an older fan, so I could make this.


    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...%20in%20back%20lane_Transalpinbacklane004.jpg


    The original bike had lots and lots of wiring hidden in the fairing. The entire loom came into the fairing, and then sent a load of wires on multiplugs to the handlebar switches, a load more to the ignition key switch (there's an immobiliser there too), and shedloads more into the back of the instrument dashboard for the gauges and the warning lights. Plus, when I fitted the headlamps 10 months ago I added extra wires and 2 relays, and then there's the wires to operate the vapor computer. So when I took dashboard and it's home made housing off I was confronted with this waterfall of spaghetti.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...roving%20front%20lights_Nathalieshouse001.jpg

    I took several photos a s a record of "what was connected to what"

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...roving%20front%20lights_Nathalieshouse007.jpg

    There was no room to hide this under the petrol tank, thereÂ’s the airbox, radiators, fans and stuff all there. I wanted to keep this bike as close to HondaÂ’s intention as much as I could. It might look different, but I have learned that the way Honda makes it is usually the most reliable way to keep it. I could relocate the electrics farther back to under the seat, but I want that space for storage.

    I went to my local high street electronics shop, they have enclosure boxes of various sizes. Not wanting to replace one big ugly box with another big ugly box I chose one smaller than the lights.

    To get the wires in you drill holes in the box, and fit a component known as a "gland". Stop sniggering at the back. Feed wires through the gland, tighten it up, and it forms a seal around your wires so water can't get into your box (stop sniggering again!)


    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...roving%20front%20lights_Nathalieshouse009.jpg

    The theory was "I'll just identify each male & female pair of multiplugs, chop off each multiplug, chop off any surplus wiring, feed each into the box, and fit a new multipug.

    So I cut the old headlamp bracket and welded new bits onto it. Then realsied it wouldnÂ’t work, cut bits off and welded new bits on.


    It took f'kn ages, several nights of trying to measuring, cutting off multiplugs, feeding wires in, and to reduce the volume of multiplug, instead of 2 x 6pin multiplugs I'd combine them both into a single 12 pin.

    Night after night after work I did this from about
    6pm to 1 or 2 am. My girlfriend starts work early in a hospital, we live together but didn't see each other for a week.

    However, after several nights I realised that the box just wasn't going to be big enough, I'd need a 2nd one. It took a lot of thinking and mocking up different options. In the end I decided a smaller box between the lights was the way to go. the lighting circuitry is pretty much a separate standalone set of wires and relays, so I split that out to go into the 2nd box.

    Problem is I just didn't want a massive box, and I wanted it to all look one cohesive design, that these boxes and lights were all meant to be in the same place, with minimal gaps between them, and looking suitably industrial and purposeful.


    I settled on using a smaller box, between the headlights. I had this plastic box left over from another project. I bought the equivalent one in metal, and had to re-make the light bracket to bring the headlights themselves forward by about 25mm.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...roving%20front%20lights_Nathalieshouse011.jpg

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p...%20in%20back%20lane_Transalpinbacklane003.jpg


    More drilling, filing and fitting of glands ensued. And painting. Remember kids, when painting alloy, always use an etch primer, or your righteous ratbike will have lots of shiny shiny aluminium poking through the matt black....

    The glands actually take up a lot of room in the box, I thought I had misjudged it and would need more space, though I had a flash if inspiration at 1am "replace your relays with micro relays". With a combination of space saving micro relays and piggyback spade connectors I was "back in the game".

    Another problem is having live wires crammed into a metal box, they earth out and I blew a farkin shedload of fuses. Sometimes with spectacular spark displays.

    It is a serious squeeze in both of my electrics boxes, but I even managed to squeeze in a red flashing LED wired in to my secret antitheft device to be a deterrent to the undesirables.


    A few people have asked about the seat. For foam I used “recon foam” it’s the firmest grade of foam so ideal for bike seats, it doesn’t deflate. I couldn’t source any in Australia so after 2 months I gave up and ordered it from the UK. Cost was 8 pounds for the foam and 50 pounds for shipping. But worth it, I’ve used it before and now I wont accept anything less. I also bought a 19mm deep gel pad for wheelchair users to prevent pressure sores. That’s a cheap way of buying lots of gel. You can cut that to shape as long as you seal the cut with tape. So its gel, on top of recon foam (you shape the foam with an electric carving knife, then wrap it in thisk plastic to waterproof it). The cover is black vinyl for covering outdoor furniture. I folded it and stapled it to the seat base so there’s no cuts, so waterproof.

    https://s3.amazonaws.com/advrider-p..._making2partseatfromre-confoamandgelpad25.jpg

    I made the rear rack. The a great thing about ratbikes and survival bikes is that your repairs just have to be strong. So I didnÂ’t use a tube bender, it isnÂ’t perfectly square, but it has never needed repairs and can carry a case of 24 beers easily.

    ItÂ’s my only bike, so I commute on it, tour on it, go off road (but donÂ’t try to keep with the KTMs) it does the lot. I went out into the Australian desert with a Mad Max fan group and we got up to mischief (on closed roads, of course). I love the way that most people donÂ’t understand it. They know sports bikes, they know Harleys, but they see this and just donÂ’t get it. Nice to keep people guessing.

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  8. Spina

    Spina wannabe motorcyclist

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    With a black engine and some metal panel on the front it could be used in some sort of Mad Max movie!
  9. raoulserban

    raoulserban vrrummm

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    Man, don't take it personally but that bike is potthesslig.
    Try an africa twin
  10. GSPD750

    GSPD750 Adventurer

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    Can someone translate that for me? :ear
  11. AlpineGuerrilla

    AlpineGuerrilla Been here awhile

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    It sounds like the german word potthässlich, which roughly translates to butt ugly. :lol3
  12. Big Chris

    Big Chris Adventurer

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    Africa Twin is too short for me as well, too expensive for what they are, and too rare to consider mad maxing.
  13. csustewy

    csustewy Motojero

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    Mas - you provided a lot of good CDI info in your last post, making some distinctions that I certainly wasn't aware of, and likely explained why there just isn't much data out there yet regarding lifetime of imported units. It will be interesting to see what kind of mileage JBMorse (thanks for your future report!) and others get out of these units...

    Aside from viewing some impressive Transalp mods, I have also just learned a new and useful German word and seen "mad maxing" used as a verb. Today was a good day. :beer
  14. ravelv

    ravelv from Baltic side of river

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    Still, AT is bigger and can be more easy adapted, see this post:

    http://www.advrider.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5184494&postcount=1013

    Rider is 205 cm tall.

    From other side, you can take more advantage of your body size and use much higher suspension with bigger wheel travel as well.

    [​IMG]

  15. Tjelle

    Tjelle Adventurer

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    Thanks for your input Blackbert

    I have checked my Hayne's manual and looked for an answer online some time. I haven't been able to find any info on changes in framework which would be my biggest problem. Only small changes that are mostly cosmetic. So I'll give it a shot and if they don't "fit" together I'll just drive it off a bridge - while I'm on it :fall

    Thanks again - can't wait to get started :happay
  16. Transalp1999

    Transalp1999 Adventurer

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    I bit the bullet and got a Schuberth C3. Money well spent. They are quiet and very comfortable. It hasn't packed out as much as my old Shoei, but just enough to be able to ride all day in.

    The sunvisor is easy to operate and has a good position (ie, doesn't end in your field of view). The chin strap is simple with gloves and the dual pane visor rocks!:D Rode all winter without fogging up. Highly recommend.
  17. Blackbert

    Blackbert Factory Rambler

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    With the cosmetic changes (fairing), the only possible change in framework could be the subframe holding the dash and fairing. But still, that would bold on to the main frame with no problems.

    Take pictures, we like them. :D
  18. AppFan

    AppFan Long timer

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    So here's the first one that came where the general consensus was NO!

    [​IMG]

    And here is what just arrived from Sweden to replace it:

    [​IMG]

    I'm feeling better about this one. It even comes with the bolt for the bottom eye that has to be replaced.
    Now if I can get my company to go to sleep so I can get some garage time I can finally get the bike off the lift...
  19. mas335

    mas335 xendurist

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    looks more correct to me and you have good weather this weekend to test it out.
  20. Royce Cochran

    Royce Cochran was 2bold2getold

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    Does anyone have a none working (bad) oem type CDI or two that they don't want any more. I'll gladly pay shipping. PM please. I have an idea that envolves hard wiring (soldering) a cable directly to the pcb and potting the cable to the CDI (no flex). Then adding a new connector to the pig tail and harness. Figured I better practice on a bad one before cutting my good ones open. :evil