KINGS of the WEST: High Speed Motorcycle Tour and Campout

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  1. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    This Riding And Camping Event Has TWO Spots Open!
    This is not an ADvrider sanctioned event.

    The IN list: Only 35 riders will be allowed to keep this manageable.

    Riders:
    1. Trailtrick (Javier) Some sort of KTM, I'm sure...................................$PAID IN FULL
    2. Razr (Charles) KLR 650...................................................................$Dep Paid
    3. Punkenduro (Pat) Kawi KLX250
    4. Herrhelmet (Jim) BMW Dakar WP'd................................................. ..$Dep Paid
    5. Me (Rob) BMW Yamakar..................................................................$Dep Paid
    6. FORE! (Scott) KTM 950 SE-R............................... New Mexico.............$Dep Paid
    7. Johnny_5 (Megan) KTM 690................................Arizona...................$Dep Paid
    8. BouncingBilly (Billy) Yamaha 450.......................................................$Dep Paid
    9. Hilslamer (Tim).KTM 990 A.............................Arizona.....................$Dep Paid
    10. Brent347 (?Brent?) KTM 660 Rallye....................................................$Dep Paid
    11. Traveltoad (Aaron) KTM 950 SE..........................................................$Dep Paid
    12. Dunerat (Noel) KTM 950 SE ???.........................................................$Dep Paid
    13. Mattomoto (Matt) BMW Yamakar .......................COLORADO!!!............$Dep Paid
    14. Toast KTM 690R..........................................................................$Dep Paid
    15. Baja Joe (Joe) Honda XR650R...........................................................$Dep Paid
    16. Wachs XR650 R..................................Oregon................................$Dep Paid
    17. Sandrat KTM 690R...........................................New Mexico!!............$Dep Paid
    18. Regulator (Duane) Either an XR400R or CRF 450X.................................$Dep Paid
    19. Broken Spoke (Gary) KTM 530.........................................................$Dep Paid
    20. Nowwhat (Mike) Husaberg FE570......................................................$Dep Paid
    21. WallyWhirled Husky TE610..............................................................$Dep Paid
    22. Crawdaddy (Chris) Yamaha WR250R.................................................$Dep Paid
    23. CptRon (Ron)???...........................................................................$Dep Paid
    24. Berolina (Anders)???....................................................................$Dep Paid
    25. Never.Ride KTM 450.................................COLORADO !!!.................$Dep Paid
    26. Strega (Roger) KTM 620 Adv...........................................................$Dep Paid
    27. Trick17 ??? KTM 950A....................................................................$Dep Paid
    28. Rruugger (John) KTM 640A......................................................$PAID IN FULL
    29. SITO (Lewis) KTM 690....................................................................$Dep Paid
    30. CA Stu (Stu) KLR 650.....................................................................$Dep Paid
    31. Yzlvr (Eric) Yamaha WR250F............................................................$Dep Paid
    32. Sandrat Dad KTM 950 SE-R............................New Mexico!!!..............$Dep Paid
    33. Cross-Country (Tony) KTM 950SE-R..................NEW MEXICO!!! ..........$Dep Paid
    Rider Waiting List:

    OPEN


    Support:
    1. Airborndad (Keith)................confirmed
    2. Spafxr (Jim) .......................confirmed
    3. Sopascat (Cathy)
    4. Ben99r1 (Ben) .....................confirmed
    5. Mpanther.............................confirmed
    6. Lost Again (Patrick)
    7. Xymotic (Aaron)................confirmed
    8. afmracer
    9. TBarstow (Tim).....................confirmed
    10. Gary (Regulator's Dad)............confirmed
    11. KP (Baja Joe's buddy)..............confirmed
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    New information posted 03/01/2010


    Kings of the West 1500!
    2010

    Riding And Camping Event

    The Kings of the West (KotW) Riding And Camping Event is for those motorcycle adventurers who've always wanted to participate in a Paris To Dakar Rally-like event here in the United States. The KotW is a five day off-road event, covering between 240 and 330 miles of the Western United States daily for four days of riding with rest/relaxation and party on the third day. It covers some of the most unforgiving, technical and high speed terrain in the Western states. 100% of the KotW course is ridden on approved riding and driving land designated as off-road use areas by the BLM and other state and local authorities. Transit areas are paved sections of the course utilized only for the purpose of retrieving fuel and all rules of the road are to be followed.

    The KotW is conceived for like-minded individuals who like to cover many miles of dirt riding in a single day, day after day, relying only on one's own ability to prepare for the inevitable and survive the unforseen. This event also requires that the riders are very familiar with GPS navigation and sourcing their own gasoline along the routes using the various "transits" along the way. This is not an event for lolly-gaggers, slackers, noobs or those wanting to stop and smell the roses.

    Being that the primary goal of this event is to pit rider overall navigational skills against rider, not team against team and therefore dollars against dollars, no individual chase teams or rider sponsors are allowed, leaving each rider to wrench one's own bike, change one's own tires and fill one's own gas tank at gas stations along the way. This is not a race!

    All rider support comes from volunteers who are friends, family, or off-road devotees who put up their own time and vehicles to help this event occur. Although all support personnel are volunteers, all of their expenses, including gasoline, hotels, food, and race schwag is covered by rider entry donations and dollars from the sell of schwag in the "buy stuff" section of the website www.kingsofthewestrally.com. So be sure to stop in there and buy something. All funds received go to supporting this event and will be exhausted on expenses.

    In order to keep the KotW course and date confidential, only approved riders will be allowed to ride this event, and only they will have access to the dates and course information through the password protected forum accessed via www.kingsofthewestrally.com. The 2010 roster is currently full and in order to be allowed on the waiting list, you must contact the KotW organizers through thewebsite, or at
    kingsofthewestrally@gmail.com
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    Mandatory donation to ride: On a need to know basis.

    What this gets you:
    • Entry
    • Route notes and GPS coordinates/routes for checkpoints
    • Space to have your personal items hauled on support vehicles (Tires, Clothing, Spare parts, etc)
    • Fuel for the support vehicles (Not the motorcycles)
    • SPOT tracking using mobile satellite internet assisted laptops monitored until each rider has finished.
    • Lodging in Brianhead, Utah
    • Racing Jersey or hooded sweatshirt.
    • Your entry fee also covers the cost of a racing jersey or hooded sweatshirt for each person on the support team.
    • Stickers
    • Dinner and drinks each night
    • Breakfast each morning
    • Midway party in Brianhead, Utah with BBQ and open bar.
    • Any and all support required for breakdowns or injury.
    • Yet to be determined, some sort of trophies or awards. This is last on the list, because I think it’s the least important.
    Rules:
    • The first rule of K.O.T.W. is don’t talk about K.O.T.W. to anyone that you wouldn’t trust with your life.
    • Second rule of K.O.T.W. is don’t talk about K.O.T.W.
    • All motorcycles must be legally street licensed.
    • All Riders must ride the whole event.
    • All riders must carry an operable SPOT locator and be subscribed to the “tracking” service.
    • All riders must carry a cell phone.
    • Proper riding apparel must be worn throughout the event. No jeans and work boots!
    • All riders must carry liability insurance during the event.
    • All riders, if married or have children, must carry minimum of $250,000 in life insurance during the event.
    • Each rider must carry all of their own fuel, purchase it from a gas station along the “transit” sections of the route, or beg, borrow or steel along the route.
    (A” transit” is a portion of the course which for one reason or another, or by design utilizes a highway, road or some other pavement coated surface. All posted speeds “should” be followed, but that’s up to you……..)
    • No personal support or chase vehicles. This will be unfair to those who do not have that ability. Let’s keep it FUN, level, fair and most of all, affordable for everyone.
    • No engine swaps.
    • Each rider must carry enough food and water to sustain themselves for at least 48 hours.
    • Each checkpoint must be gone through and each rider must receive a “mark” to receive the points for that leg of the event.
    • When coming upon any rider who is injured or broken down, every rider is required to stop and render aid unless dismissed by the other rider. Each successive rider who comes upon this incident will be required to stop and take the position of the first rider who stopped. The first aid-rendering rider is then free to depart if he chooses. Once the rider has said he’s “OK”, or the repair is complete, he must give the last rider on scene a 5-minute headstart.
    Suggestions:
      • Get your leg muscles in shape.
      • Get your drinking muscles in shape
      • Not mandatory, but you should use a GPS on this ride. The route notes will get you there, but you will have to stop and read them intermittently.
      • Take one set of spare tires
      • Take no less than 4 front and rear tubes, plus a repair kit.
    MORE TO COME.....................................



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  2. SSrider

    SSrider Been here awhile

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    I'm in.
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  3. nsfw

    nsfw Death Valley Noobs Rally Super Supporter

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    rob, linky not working

    this sounds like 1 epic ride.
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  4. punkenduro

    punkenduro now in a cage...

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    when is this, umemployment may have a few up sides if im approved :evil.
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  5. bouncing billy

    bouncing billy Been here awhile

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    being self employed i'm in just need time and place to start and will be riding somethin new and fast:1drink
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  6. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    I'll help out however I can :nod
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  7. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    If you're interested in riding, start putting together teams of three riders.

    If you're interested in providing support, start posting up here.

    I believe if each team donates $600 ($200 per rider), that would cover, participant Jerseys and T's for support people, fuel for the support vehicles and food for each stop with refreshments:freaky, plus enough for a midway party.:1drink

    Probably need a support vehicle for each team. But no private chase vehicles. All vehicles will be selcted for each team by a draw. :deal

    This is not an ADvrider sanctioned event.
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  8. RAZR

    RAZR u may run the risks my friend but I do the cutting

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    i think i'm IN if work and money permits ! ! ! :thumb

    and i'm down for doing it all solo !
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  9. trailtrick

    trailtrick goat trail rider

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    How abouth iroman teams ??
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  10. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    Jav,

    Three man teams, each must ride the whole course on their bike.

    Or are you thinking ride the whole course non-stop?

    I'm also thinking from the standpoint of the start, skip the gold-rush start, and instead have starts at 1 minute intervals based on a draw on teh first day. Each subsequent day will have the winners and every other finisher start based on their finishing position with the first finishers from the previous day starting last and so on.

    This is not an ADvrider sanctioned event.
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  11. brents347

    brents347 Trusting my Cape...

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    Also very interested here, but agree with TrailTrick about having an Ironman class or option.
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  12. herrhelmet

    herrhelmet Land n sea adv

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    Rob, I'm in and want to produce the flick... great friggin' idea. We can use my Utah place or wherever as a staging point too.
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  13. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    He probably (and others may ) want to go Solo and not worry or wait for other teammates

    so you could have a sign up list for:

    Team class


    Solo class


    ____________________________________________


    Checkpoint workers

    Chasers

    Timing & Scoring

    Sweep

    S.A.R.

    Start / Finish set up

    Food / Entertainment

    Gear Transportation

    Misc.

    etc.??????

    Film Crew --- Herrhelmet ?
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  14. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    Every one will be an Ironman meaning : each person an a bike will do all the miles

    Solo class : 1 rider will have 1 bike and complete all miles

    Team class : 3 riders will have 3 bikes and all 3 bikes will complete all miles
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  15. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    We could do this, but then we get into needing too many chase vehicles and then we have the issue of people hiring chase crews and .............

    This would need to be further explored to see how we could maintian the integrity of the low budget, no sponsor, no affiliation, spirit of the adventure rider, comraderie thing and still keep it competitive.

    This is not an ADvrider sanctioned event.
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  16. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    Each person should have a helemt-cam for recording the action.
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  17. airborndad

    airborndad Long timer

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    ?? Or 1 very well equipped sweep vehicle for solo riders ??
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  18. herrhelmet

    herrhelmet Land n sea adv

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    That would be ideal.

    I would say each team has to have at least one to switch around with. To clarify, I would want to be the film editor and produce the finished film using as much footage as is available.
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  19. notmybikemodelname

    notmybikemodelname KOTW is a myth!

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    That's a good story, have another one?
    It appears as though most people prefer the "Iron Man" version. That was the original idea, so I'm down with that.

    Once again, the main idea is a "Cannon Ball Run" Iron-man style event that is inexpensive, ran over 5 days, and retains the spirit of adventure riding. No sponsors, no pro teams, no sanctioning bodies, ride it like you stole it fun.

    As long as everyone realizes that it's the responsiblity of everyone on the ride to lend aid when you come upon the need. Or else, if you don't lend it, you most likely will not get it.

    Some rules must still remain intact in order to make this as even as possible for everyone involved, bike-to-bike, rider-to-rider:
    • Only street licensed dual-sport bikes allowed 250 cc's and over.
    • One bike per rider.
    • Each rider rides the whole course.
    • No personal chase crews. All of your gear must be hauled by one of the designated support vehicles.
    • No engine swaps.
    • Each rider must do all of their own wrenching unless another rider wants to lend a hand.
    • Every rider must wear an operable SPOT.
    • Only 10% tarmac for each leg verifiable by SPOT. This will allow each rider to decide when, where and how to get fuel along the route.
    • Each rider must seek out their own fuel along the route.
    First day is a Gold-Rush start at some place like Cuddeback Dry Lake or Spangler.
    Every other day starts in the reverse order of finishing from the previous day. So if you finish first one day, the next day you will start last. Starts will be at 30 second intervals.

    Each rider must have:
    • Current tags.
    • Proper riding safety gear.
    • Carry enough food and water to sustain a grown adult man for at least 48 hours.
    • Some sort of safety kit with designated safety/first-aid items to be determined at a later date.
    • Current liability insurance.
    • Current health insurance.
    • If married and/or kids, Life Insurance.
    Each rider must also sign a co-op agreement, making every participant an organizer, which will also include a "release of liability" waiver, and a clause stating something to the effect that you realize this event "can lead to injury or death".:deal

    Finally, every rider must donate a fee to be determined later to be used for rider jerseys, support crew t-shirts, fuel for the support vehicles, food and drinks for all involved, a midway (day 3) party at Jim's house in Brianhead, Utah and some sort of prizes for the top 3 finishers.

    If anyone knows of a company who would provide anything from jerseys and t's to food and alcohol, get them involved. Once again, in order to keep the spirit of this event intact, any donations from outside entities, must benefit all involved, not just one rider. It must be event support, not individual rider support and we could add them to the jerseys and t's so they get some sort of mention.


    How does this sound so far?


    This is not an ADvrider sanctioned event.
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  20. JeffS77

    JeffS77 cheap bastard

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    Sounds good
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