Tiny House Movement

[AdamFL]

The comments on the keys are one of the reasons I always bypassed them and sailed to the Bahamas. Little regulation and or enforcement and the spear fishing way better. The gentrified parrot heads have pretty well claimed the keys with their 35' center consoles and Tommy Bahama shirts.

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by koncha

I think what you are looking for is a deckover with a total deck length, minus dovetail, over 20'.

My brother has a Big Tex 20' + 5' that he uses to move around his container full of tools for job sites. He kept the dovetail because he uses it to move equipment as well.

http://bigtextrailers.com/pdf/22gn.pdf

He also got the dual tandem wheels.

I said it earlier but I realize that it's easy to overlook comments. The trailer is intended for another project related to the whole travel-and-living theme. If its primary purpose were to carry containers I'd go with a different design. But for my purposes a slight modification should allow it to carry a single 20 ft. container every so often.

Originally Posted by koncha

You also might want to look into a Haacon lift if you are going to move containers yourself. Every once in a while, they show up in government auctions or eBay.

http://www.haacon.de/en/lifting-syst...g-devices.html

Thanks! I have set a search on my eBay app to see if any come up for sale. I wasn't familiar with that company or those products but that's very similar to what I planned to build myself.

Why reinvent the wheel, right?




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[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by AdamFL

The comments on the keys are one of the reasons I always bypassed them and sailed to the Bahamas. Little regulation and or enforcement and the spear fishing way better. The gentrified parrot heads have pretty well claimed the keys with their 35' center consoles and Tommy Bahama shirts.

You know me pretty well. I was involved in the Parrothead and early club movement enough to get a mention in a book on the subject.

At the time there used to be plenty of travelers and adventurers in the Parrothead movement but we kinda got pushed aside by the drunken old gossiping women who are notorious for not tipping when they go to Key West annually.

I love the Keys but I stopped attending Meeting of the Minds several years ago when my friends from the Keys started to say that I was pretty cool but they were surprised that I would associate myself with some of those people ;)


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[koncha]

Originally Posted by PirateJohn

I said it earlier but I realize that it's easy to overlook comments. The trailer is intended for another project related to the whole travel-and-living theme. If its primary purpose were to carry containers I'd go with a different design. But for my purposes a slight modification should allow it to carry a single 20 ft. container every so often.

Sorry, I should have been more verbose in my reply.

My brother originally started with fendered, low-deck gooseneck that was additionally used for equipment movement. This was another Big Tex that was certainly hefty enough to cover the weight of the container with the contents. He tried a series of adaptations to the trailer to get it to cover both uses. He was never able to get the stability to where he felt safe pulling it.

He dropped a significant amount of money trying to get something before cutting and running to a dedicated trailer. He eventually sold the low-deck and uses the high deck for everything. (Along with a car hauler and a few other lighter duty trailers.)

Seems like you are moving down a parallel path.

Originally Posted by PirateJohn

Thanks! I have set a search on my eBay app to see if any come up for sale. I wasn't familiar with that company or those products but that's very similar to what I planned to build myself.

Why reinvent the wheel, right?

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My brother and I have messed with a few container ideas as we work on a concept for a shared cabin idea. I saw that lift when I was watching footage of the German military pulling out of Afghanistan. I started watching eBay and saw one pop up that was mislabeled as a 'heavy equipment high lift jack'.

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by koncha

Sorry, I should have been more verbose in my reply.

My brother originally started with fendered, low-deck gooseneck that was additionally used for equipment movement. This was another Big Tex that was certainly hefty enough to cover the weight of the container with the contents. He tried a series of adaptations to the trailer to get it to cover both uses. He was never able to get the stability to where he felt safe pulling it.

He dropped a significant amount of money trying to get something before cutting and running to a dedicated trailer. He eventually sold the low-deck and uses the high deck for everything. (Along with a car hauler and a few other lighter duty trailers.)

Seems like you are moving down a parallel path.



My brother and I have messed with a few container ideas as we work on a concept for a shared cabin idea. I saw that lift when I was watching footage of the German military pulling out of Afghanistan. I started watching eBay and saw one pop up that was mislabeled as a 'heavy equipment high lift jack'.

Thanks Amigo!

I don't have The Answer. This is something that I have been following for maybe 20 years. Without the budget of the Defense Department one has to go with what one can scrounge ;)




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[Jurgen]

An interesting article on moving to smaller houses, in this case trailers, as we age.



How The Trailer Park could Save us All.

Residents call life at Pismo Dunes Senior Park “Pismodise.” Park manager Louise Payne calls it “a holding tank for the great beyond.” Louise has short hair and blunt bleached bangs that give her the air of a preteen skateboarder, but at 72 she’s often found rolling by the park’s 333 trailers in her electric golf cart, alternating between her roles as mother hen and whip-cracker. California is a notoriously youthful culture, but eventually the perpetually young get very old. If they’re lucky enough to live in Pismodise, which is on the Central Coast, they can exit its palm-lined entrance, cross the road, amble across the capacious sand of Pismo State Beach, and dip their toes in the Pacific Ocean while contemplating eternity (or a cocktail).

To move into Pismodise you must meet four conditions: Be 55 or older, keep your dog under 20 pounds, be present when guests stay at your home, and be comfortable with what most Americans consider a very small house. “If you need more than 800 square feet I can’t help you,” says Louise with a shrug. There seems to be some leeway on the dog’s weight. The unofficial rules are no less definite: If you are attending the late-afternoon cocktail session on the porch of Space 329, bring your own can, bottle, or box to drink. If you are fighting with other residents, you still have to greet them when you run into them. Make your peace with the word “trailer trash.”...

Baby boomers aren’t going to retire the way their parents did. They are poorer and more likely to live alone. They can’t depend on pensions, and the real-estate bubble destroyed almost 50 percent of their wealth. Today one in six seniors lives in poverty, and that proportion is rising; the generation of Americans now facing retirement is so financially ill prepared that half of them have less than $10,000 in the bank. The coming swell of retirees will strain our current system to its limits—in terms of not only health care, but also incidental things like road signs, which are hard for drivers over 65 to read in a majority of American cities and towns...

[Zapp22]

not exactly tiny, but show me a plan for something in the neighborhood of 20x20 [roughly], 1.5 story/level so the upper is mainly storage...
Or, come to think of it, the lower is garage [MC] + storage + farm implements, and the 'loft' is living space....

and re: online floorplans/plans - why do so few offer CAD files? paper... are you kidding me? I realize that folks building the thing will resort to hardcopy but why so few designers offering the CAD files?

[perterra]

This may be 205 but I love some of the stuff in it, some little, some not


http://cabinporn.com/



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[cab591]

Originally Posted by perterra

This may be 205 but I love some of the stuff in it, some little, some not


http://cabinporn.com/



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Yeah, that was pages back. Still makes me drool.



On the trailer park topic: I actually had just finished reading that article before seeing it linked here -- jalopnik posted it. It really does bring up a good point. Modern pre-manufactured homes are built to the same standards as most traditional houses, just a lot cheaper. The communities are often friendly and active. Some friends and I are looking into rental houses for the next year, but now we're thinking of buying a cheap, used single wide. The only issue we're running into are the parks in Arizona -- I swear every single one is 55+. Young people can't want to live in trailers, too?

[Ken]

"Cabinology: The study and implementation of personal dreams related to planning, designing, constructing and/or living a simple life, in a simple structure, close to nature, the purpose of which is to bring peace, contentment and satisfaction to one's soul ...."

[PirateJohn]

Originally Posted by Jurgen

An interesting article on moving to smaller houses, in this case trailers, as we age.

Everyone (seemingly) has seen the RV retirement parks in Florida. I stumbled across the over-55 parks in the RGV of South Texas several years ago. To me this article paints somewhat of a depressing picture of getting older but I have to say that the parks themselves in Texas tend to be pretty decent. As we get older and want less hassle and more time to take care of our hobbies they make great sense.

[JNRobert]

Originally Posted by Ken

"Cabinology: The study and implementation of personal dreams related to planning, designing, constructing and/or living a simple life, in a simple structure, close to nature, the purpose of which is to bring peace, contentment and satisfaction to one's soul ...."

As long as you have someone to share it with. It's just as soulless as a McMansion on a smaller scale otherwise.

[Beemer Bob]

Originally Posted by Ken

"Cabinology: The study and implementation of personal dreams related to planning, designing, constructing and/or living a simple life, in a simple structure, close to nature, the purpose of which is to bring peace, contentment and satisfaction to one's soul ...."

Those trees will be a big issue for the roof..........