We came out smelling like a rose because the blue liberal government (Chretien with Martin as finance) of the 90's made it a point to cut spending and pay down debt along with ensuring there were checks and balances in the banking system. Since we have had a majority conservative government our deficit has grown to Mulroney proportions. Within 8 years they will have wiped out all the debt paydown completed in the 90s and our national debt will be back to the pre Chretien/Martin levels. We need true financial conservatives not the pork barrelers that are in there now.
I don't know how many lawyers and doctors have entered politics over the years and have they done any better? Dishing dirt on someone is one thing, suggesting that having been a camp councillor IS dirt is another. I don't know but if he can be trusted with kids and their safety and development well maybe that is a positive. Trust fund, why is that bad? Trying to manipulate us into making negative judgements based on pretty benign stuff. It makes me wonder just how stupid the govt thinks we are. Hey anyone want to talk about insurance companies now?
The Paul Harvey on that is that their methodology was robbing Peter to pay Paul. You can defer certain spending for only so long before the bill comes due. I know this to be true in dept of defence. Yes, they cut the deficit. But it was smoke and mirrors. As we witnessed in the US, the damage Bush wrought came home to roost on Obama's watch. Thing is, they are all beholden to whatever contributors that paid for their election. Until that crooked game is gone, they'll all be the same, just wearing different colours.
The way I see it is, They must be really scared of this new guy that they feel the need on day one of his new position that they need to start the attack adds. If they were confident in their ability to win the next election on their own merits they wouldn't feel the need to sink to this low of attack adds. Do they really think we are that stupid as to think they are better than him by what they are saying about him? I feel like they are talking down to e all the time....trying to talk slowly so I will understand what it is they are trying to pull over on me. I hope Trudeau stays away from this as he has done in his first add saying we deserve better that this.....it elevates him to a higher plain just on this alone! imho. If he stays away from attack adds I think the general public will see it as a positive position compared to the waste of money and time the conservatives are doing by airing their negative adds, when they could be doing something more positive....? Like explaining to us how they are going to get things turned around for our economy. It just pisses me off.....being treated like a child who can't think for himself and must be told what to think about the other person. That leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.
Is a waste of time, but the money is money from the Conservative Party not gov't - well except for the money they recieve based on number of votes recieved but I think Harper killed this policy so as to kill off funds available to other parties. No money no chance to win and the conservatives have a very good fund raising program while NDP, Liberals and Green parties do not. I think Harper's goal was to kill the liberal party vs just beat them. I get it, the idea of needing an adversary to focus your team's efforts and sharpen them but by killing off one party you are in effect killing democracy. I need to get more educated on the parties and politics in general. I don't typically vote but have opinions (semi informed ones anyway ) and think the only way the political process will work is if we as citizens take control back from the politicians. So I guess I will get on the vote wagon.
The only way I'll waste my time voting is IF the race is close.....if it's a slam dunk for the Harpooner team then I'll stay home and sulk....lol.
The way I understand it votes used to = money for a party, each vote resulted in some allocation of gov't fund which allowed the official opposition and other parties to still participate and represent their voting constituents. So there may be value in voting one way or the other. I think that the conservatives nix'd this program to stymie the liberals and other parties who counted on this to be viable operations from a organizational POV. From a win at all costs POV it was pretty clever but the effect may have been to kill democracy. Sort of like the need of non-profits to advertise and chase donations in order to keep their message in the publics mind. A certain portion of donations go towards advertising and not the actual charitable cause. Without it they wouldn't be able to achieve anything.
I come to ADV rider to get away from life, dream about riding and planning my next trip. Please dont ruin thi site with politics! PLEASE!!
Regional Forums are just that, a place to discuss Regional Issues. If you don't like the content of the Thread Header, don't click on it. In the meantime, n00b - get me a beer and a bacon sammich.
Fair enough. To be honest the entire left vs. right debate is a joke. All the sheep just line up and say ba!!. One is conservative, one is liberal one is ndp. They are all criminals and none of them care. They only care that they get elected again. As for Trudeau. you would have to be an idiot to vote him in as PM. He has never had a job that would suggest he should be PM. He has been a public speaker, school teacher and ski instructor. If he gets elected he should be ashamed a nation. If it wasn't for his old man (Piece of Sh&% he was) he would not be elected as Alderman in the town of Wawa! Harper is no better. But atleast he has steered the country clear of significant recession (so far). I'm sick of paying taxes and big government. Healthcare is a joke and the baby boomers will suck the system dry and bankrupt before I get old enough to take advantage of it. It is not left vs. right. It is us vs. the government. If you think otherwise give your head a shake. By the way your beer is over taxed and your pork sandwich is overpriced because of pork marketing board and likely quotas. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o> I'm sick of paying taxes and big goverment. Healthcare is a joke and the baby boomers will suck the system dry and bankrupt before I get old enough to take advatage of it. It is not left vs. right. It is us vs. the goverment. If you think otherwise give your head a shake. By the way your beer is over taxed and your pork sandwich is overpriced because of pork marketing board and likely quatas.
nice see you had it in you to throw down some political commentary. There is value in this, as I am coming to understand. I agree a political party's number one go is to be elected, number two is re-elected. As for qualifications to be a PM, well as there is no professional association for politicians there is no standard of what experience is required, so it maybe it does come down to personality traits and once elected then performance based (maybe) and public relations or soft campaigning between elections. He who has the biggest budget buys the election may not be far from the truth, so the more we debate and get involved the more we negate being sheep and the less important PR is and the more important performance on the job becomes. A real challenge in my mind is a viable alternative. If nothing else taking control through participation puts the power back in our hands so that a gov't with less than 25% of the vote can't be the sole representative of our collective will. Big gov't - amen, I'd like to see big reductions to big gov't, but I don't have a clear statement on what that would mean to me, less services, lower taxes or more efficient gov't or something else. I don't know enough, but efficiencies would be high on my list. I'd like to see real accountability as in if you steal from the taxpayer in you position of trust you get fired and go to jail and make restitution. Bev Oda and others of her ilk would not be quietly pensioned off, no they would forfeit the golden pension and be subject to criminal charges. On the note of pensions, it used to be they were golden plated in order to attract professions who would take a hit professionally for loss time in their trade and loss income opportunity, it was thought that they would serve the public in office for a short term and then return to whatever profession but that isn't the case, so many are career politicians, it is what they do despite having say a law degree they were never practicing lawyers so why the solid gold pensions?
When I say I want a reduction in government. I mean it. Particularly at the Federal and Provincial Level. I do not want anything from my Federal government but national defense, enforcing contract laws and a few select moral laws. Welfare, unemployment etc.. Keep them all. Most everything else can be better managed by private sector without any government intervention or at a community level. Taxes should be slashed and given back to the people.
In 2010 (and possibly to this day?) Harper had his former spokesperson pushing the CRTC to allow a "right wing television network modelled along the lines of Fox News." He who controls the news..... It's just like the Ford brothers here in Toronto with their radio show. There is nothing democratic about this.
How about the government stays out of the media industry 100%. Not a penny of tax payers money goes to the CBC or any other station. How about the CRTC get eliminated and as consumer we get to choose what we want to watch. Amen!
There is no, none, zero, democratic process remaining in this country. If this, http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montr...les-cloutier-donations-turnkey-elections.html ,is happening on a municipal / provincial level, one only has to frame it in the National context (where the BIG money is) to get a grasp of how corrupted the political process has become in this country.
gee you have alot to say for someone who doesn't like this thread.... Drop CRTC and Bell will own all if not most of the media... and they, the media, already have a gag order about talking about Bell... who own's CTV again?:huh
Eliminate the CRTC and say goodbye to all Canadian programming too. Cbc is an entirely different animal than a network with interest of ONE political party like the Sun Media one. Only Hugo Chavez was able to pull that one off. He rapped, danced....quite the variety show
Mr. Socialist, The CBC is entirely different. It take tax payers money. There is enough media choice. If you like the CBC the. Watch it. It will make money from ads like every other station.
I like the Ford bothers.....I know nothing of them other than they are upsetting all of the other politicians and on the outside saving the city money from the way the news says....yep the news 100% truthfull. I like the fact that the other side is so pissed at them they are trying their level best to get Rob forced out at every turn and fail it's almost entertainment! Is he actually saving the city of Toronto money or is it a shell game?
I never said I don't have an opinion or I do not like speaking on political matters. What I said was I come to ADV to dream about riding. As for the CRTC, all they do is eliminate competition.Big business loves government intervention it pushes out the small providers.Get rid of the crtc open up the internet for foreighn content and we would never need to look back. If the CRTC had their way they would like to control the internet as well.
