The All New LIQUID COOLED R1200GS threadfest

Will that Jan. GS be sold to you as a 2013 model or as a 2014 model? (I assume you're expecting the new water cooled version).

Are LED lights on the option list?

Well, in case of Norway it isn't really BMWs doing. The policy here is a quite closed market supporting local products and buisneses. So we have a very high income, which results in high prices where human work is required, so for the local dealerships not to die from people importing from abroad where it is twice cheaper
there is an almost 100% import tax. So importing comes out basically the same as buying here. Bit of a self propelling mechanism...

I am number 2 on the list at Asheville NC dealer. No pricing yet and im hoping led lights are available in the us.

Anybody has an idea of an approximate retail base price of the liquid-cooled 2013 1200 GS? Or has a good cristal ball?

Thanks.

Read up on this thread--the last few pages. According to the ADV Hive Mind, should be priced about the same as the outgoing camhead.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=20038900#post20038900

Not arguing with a dealer, just observing that my local dealer just told me 2013 model at first, which surprised me. Who cares? Assuming the first model year is buggier, a 2014 may be a bit more reliable than at 2013. If they are all 2014s, the continuous improvement process will still favor a later bike.

Not a dealer, my friend...........

But I did stay in a Holiday Inn last nite....

Do have friends in the Business....thru out.

What are you hearing about the LED headlight option in the U.S.?

Nothing definitive...yet, although they are requested on my order, no info on pricing yet either, but my understanding is that it is to be about the same as the current model.

The bikes sold in 2013 might well be "bugier" but I doubt your going to find out and have revisions by 2014. Very few people do enough miles in a year to show design problems unless it's a huge problem. The first of the 1200s were 2004 but the first fd redesign wasn't until 2006 then 2007, 2008 and 2010 although a few of those changes were only drain plugs and stuff. Fuel pump controllers took until 2008-2009 to sort out. Basically don't expect to wait a year and get a well sorted model if even any different at all. When you think about it though there has only been a couple of show stopping common problems, although a good few niggles and one of them, the fd has never been fully sorted.

San Fransisco.

Not sure if serious...

If so, a bad idea, the locals have been snippy lately over foreskins, whale or otherwise.

I'm serious. It's a big market there.

I think Los Angeles. Southern California has lot of adventure riding, and then along onto Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, Utah.

Here is my take on this bikes 1st run. BMW is releasing "2014" model in March next year - 2013. So all of 2013, we will have 2014 model, then comes the following year - 2014, the bike will not become 2015, but remain the same. Hence, 2014 WC GS will remain as is for two years.

Few Small enhancements if we're required, won't happen till 2015! :eek1

Personally if I were to get it, it would this new 2014 model, no point waiting for two years for any minute fixes.

Probably. You're going to have a bigger crowd there with deeper pockets compared to the 4 bordering states. Those states are big for adventure riding, but I still think Cali is where it will premier. Completely speculation though, I could be completely wrong.

+1. I agree. Good points.

Agree, but not always 'as needed' at least by my definition. Some issues remain for years for some reason.