BMW 1150GS Clutch Splines spacer kit (CLOSED)

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  1. cele0001

    cele0001 Instigator

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    FOR FEEDBACK REGARDING INSTALLS PLEASE POST AT THE INSTALL FEEDBACK THREAD.
    http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?p=27007778#post27007778


    UPDATE: 7/2/2017

    I NO LONGER PROVIDE SPACER FOR THE CLUTCH. THERE IS A CLUTCH PLATE AVAILABLE FROM MOTOBINS.UK THAT HAS EXTENDED HUB WHICH ACCOMPLISHES THE SAME THING (BUT MUCH EASIER AND BETTER). IT WAS FUN, AND NOW IT IS OVER.
    THANK YOU ALL AND KEEP ON RIDING.
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    Thank you for your time.
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  2. tbarstow

    tbarstow Two-wheelin' Fool Super Supporter

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    So how thick is your spacer?
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  3. vagueout

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    Beautiful work.:*sip*
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  4. j911brick

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    Nice simple solution.
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  5. Anorak

    Anorak Woolf Barnato Supporter

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    Put "solution" in quotes for a while.
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  6. liviob

    liviob Been here awhile

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    Looks like the Bruno mod sans rivets. Using bolts makes assembly a little easier. Do you plan to sell the spline hubs?
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  7. _cy_

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    very nice .. so did you custom CNC above parts?
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  8. _cy_

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    pretty slick .. how much?

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  9. Ravenslair

    Ravenslair Been here awhile

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    Put me in line for one as well. Toss it in the tool box and hope to not need it for quite a while.
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  10. sweatmark

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    Nicely done!
    This, plus your emergency spark plug coil trick, UNI filters (over on the Rockster board)... You do good work.

    Thanks!
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  11. cele0001

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    Thank you . I like to play. But this is an attempt to provide the parts needed to modify the existing clutch to become "Bruno" clutch. The idea is the same. I am still testing mine in the bike. It is riveted now. UNI filters are the mod to make removing the transmission easier. It is out in 30 minutes and back in in 45.
    The spacer has been designed for BMW clutch. I did not play with Siebenrock clutch.
    I want to make sure that the average guy can perform this mod using basic tools. Dremmel or grinder, punch, hammer. Hydraulic press would be nice for the rivets but we will see. I don't want to go into discussion about causes of stripped splines, it has been talked about ad nauseam. My real test would be to get somebody with stripped splines to install modified clutch and nothing else, no additional parts.
    I believe that the bike would have long happy life. Either way it is not ready yet.
    If there is enough interest I will run 10 parts. Right now I am hovering at about $100 for the kit but nothing finalized yet.
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  12. madjimbo

    madjimbo Hertz, Donut?

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    Definitely interested!
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  13. _cy_

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    so you think your spacer would work without changing out stripped splines?
    spacer would allow undamaged splines to mate up with new clutch disc. giving back aprox 1/3 to 1/2 of original spline length

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  14. cele0001

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    6 speed has 19 mm of spline length available. It does not use 6 mm, so only 13mm are actually carrying the load. Thank you GSAddic for the info. If you look at the worn shaft, (and you dont have to look far),

    (EDIT: ONe just popped up above this post.)

    there is about 4mm that is only partially worn. And you are gaining the second point on contact on the front of the shaft to stabilize the clutch plate further. Both of these areas are "virgin" more or less. So I think that this middle portion would be safely bypassed. Speculation at this point so an official tester would be nice.
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  15. liviob

    liviob Been here awhile

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    A spacer for the Siebenrock clutch disk would need to be made thicker than for the OEM BMW clutch disk as it's hub is approximately .125" shorter.
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  16. sweatmark

    sweatmark Been here awhile

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    Count me in for a kit.
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  17. Jim Moore

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    That's nice work there, neighbor! I'm very interested. Just so I'm picturing this correctly. On the curent setup there is left over spline on the clutch hub after everything is assembled. Your spacer moves the splined part of the clutch hub to the rear by 6 mm, which allows the total splined area of the hub to be engaged. We haven't actually solved the underlying problem, we've just given the splines additional meat that they have to chew through. Perhaps pushing the (inevitable?) failure so far into the mileage future that it becomes a non-issue.
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  18. DSTEVENS

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    0H great, BANG,CLUNK,RATTLE,POP,WHINE,WHIR,TICK, and now I need to listen for splinage may not be finage.:rofl. D.
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  19. cele0001

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    I would say that you are correct, except for the statement that "we haven't solved the underlying problem". I would go with maybe on that one (just to be conservative). Everything else is correct. I would say the last sentence reflects my exact feelings on this subject.
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  20. Anorak

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    I would hazard that amount of spline engagement is secondary because some of them fail at low mileage. I think my friend's 2004 has let go at about 30k.
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