Hate forward controls on a motorcycle. That said, I'm 50/50 on a scooter. Rode my Chetaks with my feet below me, rode my People 150 most of the time with my feet up against the front of the scoot.
With the Morphous configured as commuter scooter,with backrest,either position is possible. I find that in the long haul,I use the feet forward most often. Same goes for the touring machine, the Pyder. David
And a KYMCO People 250S that I picked up last summer that is currently for sale. A good machine, but heavy on the maintenance if you put a lot of miles on it (oil changes, spark plugs and valve adjustments). I really rides nicely, but has a weak stator that won't run anything extra except maybe some LED marker lights. Having had the Vespa for a while I've come to believe that Piaggio products are the equal of Japanese products. To me, the BV 350 is everything the People should be - more oomph, better MPG, better headlights and marker lights, less vibration, ability to run heated gear. Tastro, you got a chance to ride the Vespa a few years ago in Meadows of Dan. I would have let you ride it further, but I wasn't very comfortable on the Daelim - I didn't have anywhere to put the other half of my legs!
Yeah, Daelim is a Korean brand and I think the seating reflects that. Occasionally on a long rides I end up stitting on the passenger seat. You know my Daelim shares the same KYMCO engine as your People. At 28,000 miles it's safe to classify it as an oil burner. Congratulations on the BV350. Were I in the market I'd take a long look at a Bv.
Last year I was talking to an ape hanger Harley rider crossing the AZ desert and he said he couldn't imagine riding anything but ape hangers and no windshield. Different strokes.
Several decades ago, a friend of mine came to visit us, riding his H-D Low Rider. Last time I saw it, it was stock; this time: extended forks, forward controls (only) and ape hangers. He said, "Ride it - see what you think." I did. I said, "You are an idiot." Different strokes, perhaps, but that thing was uncomfortable as hell. Hmmm... I wonder how the PCX would look with ape hangers?
http://www.ebay.ca/itm/HURRICANE-Handlebar-for-Mini-APE-Hanger-Kit-HONDA-PCX125-/161613564311 Please post a pic when you're done...... Be Big, AMAC
My Vespa GT and Kymco both sit upright with not a lot of room to stretch forward (Buddy and BlowFly included). Both are comfortable rides with the Vespa being the best fit for me. The Majesty and PCX scoots I had did allow more forward extension of my legs when desired with a bit more weight on the tailbone instead of your haunches. Still, both were fairly comfortable to me. Of course, the Maj was a bit more generous space wise. AMAC's RV200 allows a good mix of both for my 5' 10" 30in inseam frame. As he has said...how you fit is most important. Something just followed me home (yes the MBD is still raging) that may offer the full range of feet forward or semi upright seating. Longwaypyder will know just what I'm talking about. Opinion on that will be coming soon.
Feet forward versus sit-up-and-beg is a function of how you ride. Sitting up is the active rider's position, controlling the ride with knees, body weight, head positioning and pressure on the handlebars. Sitting up creates alertness and awareness of the road. Sitting slouched is like being in a car and the body inputs controlling trajectory are fewer but the cup holder and stereo controls are to hand, which to me are distractions from the ride, not enhancements. I use them in the car not on the bike. Slouched is good for the large swathes of the country between the mountainous bits in the US. Sitting up is good for places where involvement is required for fast clean riding, "the twistiess." You can do it either way; I ride sitting up across Flatistan every day, a state where slouching is entirely adequate. But I like feeling in control of the ride and I enjoy passing slow cars and bring involved in making progress. I sit up and rarely loaf along. Obviously you can lumber cruisers through switchbacks but there is a reason Harley haters (not me) call them "rolling roadblocks." Also physical limitations may take away your choices.
I can do both, just depends on the bike. On my Zuma 125 I had a set of highway pegs. I could put my feet forward or right in front of me like sitting in a chair. I kept them out in front probably 95% of the time.
My Aprilia Atlantic 500 allows one to sit with thighs level and feet back in a 'standard' position. Though it is a maxi, probably the first 500, it's more like the BVs and Scarabeos as far as ergs are concerned. My Helix got a custom saddle made that jacks me up six or so inches, enough to let me sit in the same posish. I ride a lot of gravel roads in the country and feel more 'ready' in the upright position.
Yes. I will miss it, but no one else would appreciate it more than Bill. Look out Cannonball 2016! I am up the road at Steven Foster SP. Planning to ride down to try that oyster house in Perry tomorrow.
I prefer to be able to do both if I am traveling long distances. The ability to change pressure points is critical for me. If I had to go either/or, I'd take my feet under me. It's nice to be able to put some weight on my feet. That acts as a shock absorber as well.