Help me decide, boots...

Discussion in 'Equipment' started by henrymartin, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. henrymartin

    henrymartin Mr. Tourguide no more.

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    Yeah, I know it's been beaten to death here and everywhere, but I can't decide between two specific boots:

    Looking for an all-day boots, waterproof, comfortable to walk off the bike, comfortable on the bike, and safe enough to survive a spill. Oh, and reasonably priced, too. Asking too much?

    I narrowed it down to 2 different boots, as most others either don't have buckles = less adjustment, or don't offer the protection/comfort I want.

    Choices are: Alpinestars Scout OR Sidi Cobra Rain.

    Both offer ample protection, are well known, proved to be waterproof, and appear comfortable. I never owned A*, but i did own a pair of Sidis before.

    These boots will be mostly for touring with the opportunistic ride down a gravel road, trail, et cetera. But, they will mostly see long distance use. I have dedicated off-road boots, Axo Prime, which are awesome, but not comfortable off the bike and they let water in through so many places that i can't even count them.

    Thanks
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  2. Erik1977

    Erik1977 Adventurer

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    The best motorbike boots I have are my Daytona's Travelstar GTX
    Very comfortable, nice to walk in all day, very durable.
    I use them every day, rain or shine, they are perfect for me.
    I have them for more than 5 years now, and they are still fine.

    http://www.daytona.de/english/news_e/news.html

    Cheers
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  3. dddd

    dddd Long timer

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    you can buy 150$ crap on which the velcro will wear in 3 months, no goretex nor alike, feel cold and miserable if not wet.
    or you can understand that you can buy 400$ boots that will last over 100000km (assuming you wash your feet and change socks!) which relatively to tne gas price you would pay (like 5000$), is a small investment. Just rethink your logic a moment. I dont feel commercially abused by revvit by the way; I think I get good stuff (thought out, lots of tiny details dealt with) for my money.
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  4. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    i think you'll be much happier with Sidi over AS. Worth the extra $$ ?... YES !
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  5. WhicheverAnyWayCan

    WhicheverAnyWayCan Deaf Biker

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    Kinda in the same boat as HenryMartin..

    Looking for something more of 4 seasons and would be wore for 3-6 months. Beyond that?? Unknown!

    Planning to ride from Key West FL to Prudhoe Bay AK to Ushuaia S. America and estimating my trip to be 3-5 months.. Wanting something that will keep me comfortable through hot and cold weather and still keep my feet dry.

    Willing to spend $200-$300 because I need to invest $ into riding gears, helmet, and some other stuff for the trip and I don't have deep pocket. At the moment, would prefer to spend $600 on riding gear and $200 on full helmet so think you can understand $200-300 boots budget. If I find myself deciding to do serious adventure riding after my mentioned trip and the boot is not in shape for more trip then I will seriously look into $500 boots because riding gear and helmet will already been taken care of.

    Appreciate some suggestion!! Keep them coming!
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  6. beemerphile

    beemerphile Unreconstructed Southerner Supporter

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    I guess I have tried most every M/C boot over the years, but I find the (non-motorcycle specific) Danner Acadia with a set of orthotic insoles to be the best combination of comfort, protection, and durability. A few buckles can't come close to the fit obtained by laces run nearly to the end of the toe. Waterproof (Goretex) too.

    ETA: And Made in the USA.
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  7. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    You might take a look at Gaerne G Adventer boots.
    Those of us that have tried these find them well made , comfortable and really water proof.
    Best of all they are affordable 200 -225 bucks to your door.
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  8. dirtyac

    dirtyac Ktooner

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    I've been working in a KTM shop for the last 18 years and have seen a lot of boots go out those doors. Sidi's will almost always outlast a pair of Alpinestars. Nothing breaks in as quick or stays as comfy as a pair of Sidi's.
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  9. high dangler

    high dangler Been here awhile

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    this is true .If you want to pay the price
    .My roadrace boots are Sidi and i call them "foot pussy" They feel that good.
    Only thing is that, the race boots from Sidi are what i would consider "affordable" .Their stuff with ADV in front of it gets priced out of my range.
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  10. BadKarma

    BadKarma Long timer Supporter

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    If I think I may get into wet weather I'll wear a pair of Asolo Fugitives. Great boot for hiking, waterproof, work very well but they don't carry a preferred name brand so they might not work for most inmates... :deal
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  11. JuanM

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    After over 35K, very happy w/ my Sidi OnRoads.

    That being said, I hear that the BMW AllRound boots are quite good. Motorcycle Consumer News thinks so.

    JM
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  12. metropolis2k

    metropolis2k Been here awhile

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    I find my Hein Gericke GTX Rallye boots extremely comfortable. You'll find they are also the TCX Infinity and BMW Santiago boot. I've had mine for about 2 years now I think, maybe a bit more and they'll last another 2 years I'm sure.

    I'll happily walk around in them all day long and in fact I pretty much did yesterday going round endless bike shops with a friend in London. They're Goretex so solve your waterproof issue and have two buckles (and a large bit of velcro).
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  13. hayduke.klr07

    hayduke.klr07 Been here awhile

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    Gaerne Balance Oiled. They are Gortex lined. I have the non water proof version and I like them alot.
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  14. SF_Rider

    SF_Rider Been here awhile

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    I have ridden the sidi adv boot for the past year. Great boot. The soles aren't lasting as long as I'd hope but they fit the bill.
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  15. henrymartin

    henrymartin Mr. Tourguide no more.

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    Eh? Who is talking about $150 boots? Yes, i have a pair of those, Tourmaster and they have kept me dry for a few thousand miles.

    Last I checked, both the Scout and the Cobra Rain are somewhere around $270-290. That is a mid range priced boot, IMHO. I like the Sidis better, but a lot of people seem to like the Scout. No, I have not tried either of them on my foot, as there is no one near me that carries either. I have had Sidis before though, and they lasted over 4 years and then i sold them with the bike.

    I like the Cobra Rain (even if they are mid-price) because they have good ankle and shin protection.

    I looked at Gaerne G-adventure, and I also looked at the TCX Infinity. I think the Sidis offer much more protection.

    Ooohhh, Vertigo Rain looks good too, even better actually.
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  16. Terence FFM

    Terence FFM prof. cat-herder

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    Hi, I know everyone is different and that includes personal expectations, fussiness, and for most of us an important criteria: budget. I wish I could buy whatever I liked best and not have to even look at the price. That said, if I have to compromise on a piece of gear, it will more likely be a jacket (compromise does not imply unsafe, just fewer bells and whistles, maybe a fit that is a little less than perfect, and so on), pants or gloves than either boots or helmet. In those two areas I don't compromise because nothing distracts me more than an uncomfortable helmet or makes a tour less pleasant than blisters on your feet before you have walked the twenty steps to Starbucks ( :evil ).

    For boots I own a pair of Daytona Trans Opens and a recently purchased pair of Sidi Crossfires (got the crossfires 50% - couldn't say 'no'...).

    The Daytonas are on their 5th year and nearly 100,000 km. Great boots, super comfortable, not cheap but I don't regret the purchase for a second and expect to get several more years of service out of them. On a cost per year basis, I don't think they work out more expensive than cheaper alternatives and in return I get a much higher level of function.

    That said, if I were looking for boots today, I would probably buy the Sidi Adventure Gore-tex. These weren't available when I bought the Daytonas, but if they had been I think they are the new boots to beat. A cheaper alternative might be the new adventure boots from Gaerne which are also hand made in Italy and have a great reputation for fit and craftsmanship.
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  17. go gonzo

    go gonzo The Mustard of Pants

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    Sidi Adventure Gore-Tex = USD$650

    But you can fix/replace all of the parts, and a lifetime warranty on the gore-tex.

    $65 dollars a year for ten years.
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  18. Yossarian™

    Yossarian™ Deputy Cultural Attaché

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    I will put in a plug for Sidi here. Have five pair; different models, but all my favorite boots. I've had Gaerne, Alpinestars, etc., and as far as I'm concerned, Sidi are the best.

    As far as a good all-day boot goes, I'd recommend the Sidi Canyons. The sole is good for walking and thick enough to last a good long while, but not so heavy as to be tiring or clunky. The styling is subdued compared to the Vortice-type series; goes well with all gear. Price is a bit more than the Cobras.
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  19. forrestlaw

    forrestlaw Been here awhile

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    +1 for Sidi. Last longer and fit my feet better than any other brand. FWIW I have found throughout the years (both for camping/backpacking and motorcycle) that actual gore-tex works better than any of the other waterproofing materials. They are all waterproof, but my experience with gore-tex is that it breathes better and makes it more comfy. I know the sidi gore-tex boots start at $300 or so, but the extra price is well worth it IMO.
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  20. Snowbound

    Snowbound Been here awhile

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    I have the Adventure Rain and the Combat lights which are made by Sidi . .I also have several pairs of Redwings,and a few pair of Cole-Han's to name a few pair of the footware that I own . I am a boot and shoe freak.
    Sidi boots are comfortable and last longer than the other boots .
    You can go for some cheaper boots . If you are comfortable ,why not.
    I have bought some boots because they were cheaper.They didn't last long,before they went into the trash .
    It all depends on what you can put up with .
    I don't won't to be uncomfortable ,just to save a buck .
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