'66 Yamaha Twin Jet 100. 60mph=2240 RPM!?

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  1. TheRadBaron

    TheRadBaron Been here awhile

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    I just brought home a barn fresh '66 Yamaha YL1, aka Twin Jet 100. It's a 100cc, 2-stroke twin cylinder. I can't find my camera at the moment so I can't post a picture. Anyway, the speedometer has a little legend that says "60mph=2240rpm".
    How can this be? This seems to be impossibly tall gearing for a little, tiny, 2-stroker. For example, my '72 Yamaha R5 (350cc 2-stroke twin) is turning about 5,000rpm at 60. My CB350 is turning 6,000. Hell, my 125hp FJ1100 is turning about 4,000 at 60. I can't imagine how this little bike has enough juice to move the bike that fast at that low RPM. If you were to ask me how fast I would guess a 100cc 2-stroke would be spinning at 60mph, I'd say about 8,000. Not 2,240.
    Not that it would do it, of course, but that would put the theoretical, geared, top speed of the YL1 somewhere in the neighborhood of 240mph.
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  2. Tosh Togo

    Tosh Togo Long timer

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    Post picture of speedo.






    And the rest that little puppy too. :freaky
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  3. dpforth

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    Rotational speed of the speedo cable?
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  4. YamaGeek

    YamaGeek Skeletor sparklemuffin.

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    yes, this is for calibration of the speedo and has nothing to do the the engine RPM in top gear at 60 mph..:rofl

    I'm not sure a Twin Jet 100 can make much over 60 mph as it is.
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  5. TheRadBaron

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    Alright. That makes sense. I've just never seen anything like that on a speedometer before, and I've looked at a lot of them. I was having a really hard time believing that it was the engine RPM. Thanks.
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  6. RustyPhoenixMotors

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    My single cyl. version won't (wouldn't) hit 50, and it was SCREAMING to even do that. Hoping my pipe and a few other changes will fix that, if I ever get it done. Love to see a pic, the twinjets sure are good looking bikes!
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  7. PJay

    PJay Any bike, anywhere

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    Speedo drive wheel rpm (usually front wheel on these 60s Jappas). Even Honda 90 speedos of the time had the same.

    Any reasonable Twinjet back in its day would just hit 70mph.
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  8. hoodellyhoo

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    Just for the heck of it here's a YL1 that I would like to buy from a friend but it's been promised to someone else:cry Maybe someday I can sweet-talk it away from her. Looks like it would e a fun project and I have a minor life goal of someday owning a 2-stroke street bike.

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    I'm sure with a GYT kit, and some love and a light rider the TwinJet could just make 70, but my experience with one was it was hard pressed to hold 60 in stock trim. Sure sounded like it was going fast though.
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  10. dpforth

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    First and fastest what exactly?
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  11. McJamie

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    I think it's missing the "1" in front of the 2240.
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  12. Neil E.

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    First and fastest 100cc twin.

    One of the guys had this exact bike when I was in high school in the sixties. He was well over 6ft tall and basically sat at the rear of the seat. He flogged the daylights out of this bike. Always doing wheelies on the 1-2 shift with the engine screaming. Went pretty good for a 100.
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    Awesome find. A couple years ago I too had the urge for a 2 smoke street bike. Looked long and hard and ended up with a sweet Suzuki GT550 triple. Listening to that engine idle has to be one of the top 5 sounds of all time!..
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  14. Ian Robinson

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    In Brisbane, Australia. The 1967, 4 speed, YL1 100 twin sold for $386 + reg. ( $13.60 first yr) the 5 speed of '68 sold for $410 + reg.

    Fantastic little bikes for their time. I tried to race this one ( motor) on the dirt in '68, without success.

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    I tried the steel wool once... Worked great. 'Till it caught on fire. :lol3 Exhaust pipe turned all blue, spit a bunch of flaming steel wool out and we (a bunch of doofy 15 year olds) were trying to stomp it out. As I recall, it ruined a fairly good pair of shoes. :huh
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  17. CharlieT

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    You need to Google Van Tach Yamaha. THey made frame kits and performance parts for a lot of the 100cc size engines of the day. I recall the Yamaha twin in a Van Tech frame with the GYT kit and high scrambler pipes was a real screamer. THey also made a road racer version.

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    Hi Ian, ive stumbled across this post looking for parts. Ive acquired a 1968 yl1 and wpuld like to restore it. Do you still have the engine or other parts?
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    I had a Black one like in the above photos. A couple of friends had them also we thought we was road Racers...lol.
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