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Old 12-15-2005, 09:11 PM   #1
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Coast to Coast Canada in winter??

Hi you all from Victoria BC..

I am asking for some advice about one riding topic that might get some people wondering why would I even think of doing something like this..

I am planning to do a Coast to Coast trip in Canada, but in the heart of winter.
I have already contacted a couple motorcycle magazines and they told me that have not heard of someone ever doing this..

Departure time would be after the holidays..
I lived here most of my life and know the weather and the roads.. I have crossed this country over 100 times while I was trucking long distance and also done it many times on motorcycles.

The questions I have are about things like!

Would a bike start in the morning at -30?
Would I need to make some kind of block heater? (Bike will be a F650 GS Dakar)
What tires would be recommended.
What do you think would be the apparel requirements?

I have travelled on motorcycles in the snow before but nothing like this 7000 Kms.
Planning will be required obviously and I am sure a year of planning would do it!
Any ideas? And also if anyone is interested please let me know..

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Old 12-15-2005, 09:58 PM   #2
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Across Canada.

It can be done as long as you arn't in any hurry. Don't forget to dress warm.
Toughest part will be around the northern end of Lake Superior in Ontario. Long sections with no civilation so no motels or resturants to warm up at. Rogers Pass in BC could be fun too. Maybe a backup support vehicle would be an idea. With luck you won't have too many -30 days. If you do, motel it that day. Might be a good idea to bring the bike in the room for the nite. You probably already know, it won't be much fun. Probably why no one has done it. Knobbies would be best in snow, dualsport tires on ice and street tires on cold pavement. Good Luck. Let us know how you make out.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:17 PM   #3
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It has been done before

Phil Funnel, the old Vancouver BMW dealer did it with an old airhead and sidecar. He also went to 'Took in the NWT in January the year after (late '70's I think). Bring a Coleman to warm the oil in the morning
Remember, across Canada includes Newfoundland, so it is more like 10,000kms.
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Old 12-15-2005, 10:28 PM   #4
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:04 AM   #5
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This should warm you up on your adventure. Personally I think your bonkers. It's around -18 deg. C at the moment and we are getting about 35 centimeters of snow over the next few days. Your so close to Cali why in the world would you come to a part of the country that is in a perpetual state of a frozen waste land !

Come on down !

ps.... Don't forget about our black ice , it's known to mess things up.
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Old 12-16-2005, 02:15 AM   #6
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Read Dave Barr's book called Riding the Ice. He rode across the USSR. during winter. He rode a Harley with a sidehack because he doesn't have any legs. It will give you some tips and what to expect.
Have fun.
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Old 12-16-2005, 03:21 AM   #7
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You're nuts.
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Old 12-16-2005, 04:50 AM   #8
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Drain the oil and bring it inside every night. Get a group 24 car battery. Tire chains. Don't forget your psychotropics.
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Old 12-16-2005, 10:38 AM   #9
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I agree with the questionning of your sanity... yes it hasn't been done before, but why would anyone want to?

If you must, get Gerbing or equivalent heated gear, covering as much of your body as possible (but check the total amps draw). Also get an Ipod + satellite radio, etc. Anything to get you mind off your frozen nuts and all the bruises from falling. While you're at it, get a heated visor for snowmobiling.

I just rode the west coast down into Mexico. A MUCH nicer ride, especially from where you are now.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:01 PM   #10
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I don't know, but it sounds like fun to me. Does that make me nuts too, hell yes & I wouldn't want it any other way.

Hey, if you have the time, money, and gear go and ejoy the ride. I wish you the best of luck if you try it.
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Old 12-16-2005, 12:46 PM   #11
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There was a few women that crossed Canada (Trans Canada Trail) on snowmobiles to raise money for breast cancer a couple years ago. Regular snowmobile clothes and Helly Hansen underclothes were the clothing of choice. Apparently the cords in the electric stuff got in the way quite frequently. Probably wouldn't be a problem on a smooth road though. The sleds had e-start, but they also lack crank case oil. Couldn't guess how a frozen Beemer will treat you.

Do a search for trelleborg (sp?) tires. They seem to be a fav for winter riding.

Good luck, you crazy bastard.
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Old 12-16-2005, 06:52 PM   #12
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Thanks for all those who have given me positive feedback.. I have been PM'd by a few who have done winter travel..
so far it is looking good.

as for those who doubt and chicken out.. i will do as i see often around the site.. (The bird)

it is always easy to follow, but never is to go your own way..
After all, winter is beautiful and challenging..

who knows? maybe i will end doing this trip with others who are as crazy about life as I am..
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Old 12-16-2005, 07:36 PM   #13
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There are many very good reasons why no one has done it before.....

Most revolve around the miserable levels of physical comfort; the extreme risks of falling / crashing a two-wheeled vehicle on the ice you will drive on much of the way; and the fact that most of what you will see can be seen under far more enjoyable circumstances at other times of the year........

Victoria doesn't get a real winter.
Don't use it as an indicator of what to expect.

:) :)
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:02 PM   #14
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This is not adventure. Its stupid.
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Old 12-16-2005, 08:19 PM   #15
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You Loco...

Not saying it can't be done...but it sure won't be fun...but very cool (no pun intended) bragging rights.

Currently -21C with add another 50km/h to that while riding... Brrrrr. Bunch of snow the last couple days too...

Come January, that'll be -30 before windchill. (as you you've driving cross-country)

I won't ride with you...not even down the street...but you're welcome to thaw your weary bones and come in for a warm drink.

All the best should you do it...
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