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Old 01-18-2006, 03:35 AM   #31
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The part that causes the front wheel to lock up is the brake line cross-over.
Not necessarily true. When this happened to me, I was riding a Honda NX650 Dominator. It doesn't have a brake line cross-over.

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I would think that given enough mud without the cross-over the fender itself would maybe lock the front wheel, maybe.
This is precisely what happened. The build-up of mud caused more resistance to turning the wheel than the available friction between the wheel and the mud on the ground. The bike was ridden up the slope through that section by a former national enduro champion - with the front locked and skidding all the way up the hill - very impressive. At the top we ripped the fecker off and strapped it to the rear rack (the guard, not the rider).

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As far as the reduction in suspension travel caused by raising the fender, If you plan on using all of the bikes suspension travel I suggest you obtain a new front rim cause your gunna need it
The rim should be strong enough to withstand the front forks bottoming - like it is on most bikes that don't use sub-standard Behr rims.

The hydraulic stops or whatever in the forks should also soften the blow, as it were. But they need the room to work - they won't if there is an external obstruction limiting travel - which is an inherent problem with the stock bike exacerbated by lowering the front end.
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Old 01-20-2006, 03:20 PM   #32
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My parts are on the UPS truck!
I need some brake fluid and then I will be wrenchin' this weekend
Will post pics of my $52.80 high fender conversion!
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:27 PM   #33
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pics yo

15 minutes? Not quite

Here is what I did (not in this order...)
  • Mounted sx85 fork gaurds
  • Mounted SM fender
  • Removed R caliper and cross-over-line
  • Removed old fender
  • Swapped short banjo bolt on R caliper for long one on L caliper
  • Put in more fluid (didnt have a hose to do a proper bleed which I may still have to do)

What I learned
  • Fender needed some dremel work to fit as it hit the lower triple pinch bolts
  • I dont like brake fluid

What I have left to do
  • Add another screw to each fork protector
  • Properly bleed brakes
  • Get proper plastic thingie to attach lines to L fork protector

Some pics








All in all it cost me about $40 so far

Anyone know what the PNs for those little dealies on the sx fork guards are? I need the hardware and the plastic bit
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:47 PM   #34
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How's the front brake power now? You notice much change? BTW, nice work she looks good.
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Old 01-21-2006, 03:55 PM   #35
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How's the front brake power now? You notice much change? BTW, nice work she looks good.
I think I got some air in there as it squishes to the bar.

I topped it off and wrapped a bungie around the lever for a low tech attempt at bleeding. I will probably go to the store tomorrow and get a bit of hose and bleed it proper.

One thing I wonder aboot is how the line pressure and lever feel will differ with the same size master c and only one caliper. I recall Dirtrider saying its fine and I think 950Phil is running this way. Other folks take the master c from another bike
I will find out shortly but right now its 20deg outside, I have my jammies on and I am aboot to make a magarita!

Thanks for the compliment. I like the look better too
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Old 01-21-2006, 05:12 PM   #36
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Some pics

Do the fork guards have some flex to them?...are you going to be able to get that third bolt in the side hole?...
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Old 01-21-2006, 05:18 PM   #37
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Do the fork guards have some flex to them?...are you going to be able to get that third bolt in the side hole?...
I will fab something out of sheet alum. or just dremel the whole a wee wittle bit
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Old 01-21-2006, 05:23 PM   #38
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I will find out shortly but right now its 20deg outside, I have my jammies on and I am aboot to make a magarita!
I now have this mental picture of a pajama wearing Surly with margarita in hand, on a 20 deg test ride....
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Old 01-21-2006, 05:25 PM   #39
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I now have this mental picture of a pajama wearing Surly with margarita in hand, on a 20 deg test ride....
Want me to post some (just for you) sweetheart?
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Old 01-21-2006, 05:27 PM   #40
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RM-z 450 Fork protectors

I just completed the high fender conversion: The sx 85 boots don't have a compatible hole pattern. However, RM-z450 covers adapt after drilling one hole on the side. They also seem to offer better coverage. The Acerbis aftermarket fender for the KTM requires no modifications as well.
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Old 01-21-2006, 07:19 PM   #41
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I just completed the high fender conversion: The sx 85 boots don't have a compatible hole pattern. However, RM-z450 covers adapt after drilling one hole on the side. They also seem to offer better coverage. The Acerbis aftermarket fender for the KTM requires no modifications as well.
Got any pictures?

...and what's an RM-z450...I assume it's not a KTM because I didn't see any bike listed like that on the parts fiche...
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Old 01-21-2006, 07:23 PM   #42
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I just completed the high fender conversion: The sx 85 boots don't have a compatible hole pattern. However, RM-z450 covers adapt after drilling one hole on the side. They also seem to offer better coverage. The Acerbis aftermarket fender for the KTM requires no modifications as well.
Id like to get a closer look at one of those Acerbis fenders. I doubt that the SM one will be adequate. I just moved here so who knows it might not be very muddy
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Old 01-21-2006, 07:24 PM   #43
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Got any pictures?

...and what's an RM-z450...I assume it's not a KTM because I didn't see any bike listed like that on the parts fiche...
its a Zuki yo
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Old 01-21-2006, 10:45 PM   #44
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Old 01-22-2006, 05:10 AM   #45
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I think I got some air in there as it squishes to the bar.
Almost there.


I use a large disposable syringe for the start of the bleedin duties. Go to your local drugstore/chemist and ask for a large (100ml) syringe, wear ya pajamas. If they ask ya what it's for tell them it's for a home enema kit, they seem to like that. Place some tube on the end then place the other end of the tube on the bleed nipple. Remove the master cylinder cover and make sure it's full. Pull the plunger back then release the bleed nipple, tighten the nipple back up. You should soon see if there's air in the system. Keep doing that until no more air comes out then bleed as normal. You will need to remove the syringe between purges to depress the plunger. Make sure you keep topping up the master cylinder.

I think you have to enlarge the hole on the side of the protector to get the third bolt in.

Sorry the pic's a bit out of focus.

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