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Old 11-28-2012, 12:00 PM   #3481
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Many thanks for the comment.

With regard to my question: Is there any plausible way?
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Old 11-28-2012, 12:21 PM   #3482
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Many thanks for the comment.

With regard to my question: Is there any plausible way?
There's always a way. The question is, how far do you want to go, and how much $$$ do you want to spend to get there?

Looking at my bike, the quickest way to more clearance is to drop the forks in the clamps all the way so the caps are flush with the top of the top clamp. That will get you another 10-11mm (I know, not much). Then, crank the preload on the rear shock to the max. That might get 1-2cm out back. If you want more than that, you'll need to throw $$$ at it: longer shock in the back and either longer forks or have the stock forks modified (no clue how much overlap is in the tubes and how far you can push it).

Honestly though, I wouldn't do it. I'm 6' w/ 33" inseam and can flat foot the bike w/ the seat in the low position. If you added 1" or more to the suspension, unless you're tall, it's going to make the bike tough to deal with off-road, especially if you're loaded w/ gear and fuel.

Just my 2 bananas......

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Old 11-28-2012, 12:44 PM   #3483
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A comment to this one, anyone?
Sure. The rear shock has a pretty standard linkage on it, so I'm sure you could make a raising link. As for the front, you'd need longer forks or maybe switch to a 21" wheel if there's enough room. I would think that you could lace up a 21" rim to the stock hub, or maybe one of the BMW HP2 21" rims or an Apina SPS rim if you want to retain tubeless.
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Old 11-28-2012, 01:48 PM   #3484
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OK, many thanks for your responses. My current 1150GS is the only bike I have owned, so not familiar with the more conventional front setup, hence the question.

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Old 11-28-2012, 01:58 PM   #3485
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Sure. The rear shock has a pretty standard linkage on it, so I'm sure you could make a raising link.
Unlike the linkages on smaller bikes, the link on the rear of the NTX is one solid piece. On the smaller bikes you can often purchase a different length "dog bone" and viola, instantly taller (or shorter) bike at a relatively low cost. Not so with the Stelvio. It would need a custom bit of precision engineering.....

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Old 11-28-2012, 02:50 PM   #3486
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Unlike the linkages on smaller bikes, the link on the rear of the NTX is one solid piece. On the smaller bikes you can often purchase a different length "dog bone" and viola, instantly taller (or shorter) bike at a relatively low cost. Not so with the Stelvio. It would need a custom bit of precision engineering.....

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Here's the linkage on the bike (rear tire removed, linkage disconnected from swingarm)



And this is the link all by itself. You can see that it's not a simple job to change the geometry if you want to make more clearance.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:08 PM   #3487
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Thanks again Sounds like if I should ever buy the Stelvio I'd rather be quite sure I'll be fine with the ground clearance as originally manufactured.

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Old 11-28-2012, 04:05 PM   #3488
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Unlike the linkages on smaller bikes, the link on the rear of the NTX is one solid piece. On the smaller bikes you can often purchase a different length "dog bone" and viola, instantly taller (or shorter) bike at a relatively low cost. Not so with the Stelvio. It would need a custom bit of precision engineering.....

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If I'm not mistaken, that piece doesn't have to change. It's the other two pieces attached to it that Peter didn't show in his second photo. I believe that this is still the typical rising-rate linkage setup, just in a slightly different orientation.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:15 PM   #3489
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If I'm not mistaken, that piece doesn't have to change. It's the other two pieces attached to it that Peter didn't show in his second photo. I believe that this is still the typical rising-rate linkage setup, just in a slightly different orientation.
There are 3 pieces in total. All of those can be seen in Peter's first photo. The link, the shock, and a funky "wishbone" shaped bit that attaches the link to the frame. In the first photo, all he's done is removed the bolt holding the swingarm to the triangular-shaped link, which he shows by itself in his second photo. Go peep under your Stelvio and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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There are 3 pieces in total. All of those can be seen in Peter's first photo. The link, the shock, and a funky "wishbone" shaped bit that attaches the link to the frame. In the first photo, all he's done is removed the bolt holding the swingarm to the triangular-shaped link, which he shows by itself in his second photo. Go peep under your Stelvio and you'll see what I'm talking about.

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That wishbone link is analogous to the dogbones you often see in a suspension linkage and is what would need to be replaced. I believe it should be made shorter to raise, longer to lower. Or it might be the other way around.
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Old 11-28-2012, 05:37 PM   #3491
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That wishbone link is analogous to the dogbones you often see in a suspension linkage and is what would need to be replaced. I believe it should be made shorter to raise, longer to lower. Or it might be the other way around.
Agreed, but it's not a set of simple or cheap dog bones. It's a complex piece that would be $$$ to replace. That was my original point....sadly.

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Old 11-28-2012, 06:13 PM   #3492
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If u added more height to the rear of the bike would it not put the shaft geometry out of whack? At least at a more severe angle and possibly create premature wear?
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The guy who has Guzzitech also sells Penske shocks which can be orderd +/- from stock height

http://forum.guzzitech.com/store/product/cid-34.html
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:55 PM   #3494
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If u added more height to the rear of the bike would it not put the shaft geometry out of whack? At least at a more severe angle and possibly create premature wear?
I'm quite certain that an inch or two would have no appreciable effect. The swingarm is long enough that the (slightly increased) angle to accomplish this is still well within the U-joint's design parameters.
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Old 11-29-2012, 07:13 PM   #3495
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Agreed, but it's not a set of simple or cheap dog bones. It's a complex piece that would be $$$ to replace. That was my original point....sadly.

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The ujoint as you see that would need to be the piece to replace to make the bike sit taller or shorter is simular to the piece needed on the KTM 690 to do the same. They are priced @ under $150 USD. not alot of $ at all.
I had a RC51 that I replaced the actual three hole link with one that changed the rising rate to a more desireable rate.
Those sold for only $250. I guess that might be considered alot of money to some. Perhaps this is your case.
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