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Old 03-11-2013, 05:34 AM   #4291
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If I were in your shoes, here is what I would do - keep the bike, invest in better luggage (Trax looks good but doesn't survive even a minor crash that well), and attach a 1 or 2 gallon Rotopax to the top case to give you a range closer to NTX.
This worked great for me. Only needed them twice on a 3 week trip this summer.



Also, with regards to luggage, I've been looking at this as a replacement for my Trax. Not that I've had horrible luck with them, but they aren't water tight in torrential rains (at least for me) which is a bit of a pain in the ass.

Micatech makes a bag that bolts right up to our existing racks. I think this is the route that I'm going. Same material thickness as the Jesse's. Nice sealing. Made in the Good 'Ol U.S. of A.

http://micatech.net/products/v2-cases
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Old 03-11-2013, 06:58 AM   #4292
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Has anyone confirmed that the NTX tank can go on the regular Stelvio? Not a deal breaker by any means, but a few of these leftover Stelvios have very attractive prices. Prior
PaulDaytona (on the Guzzi Tech website) has made that conversion. He lives in the Netherlands, is a good mechanic and either has access or owns fabrication equipment. Several alterations/modifications need to be made. Not an easy task.

There are a couple options for those with the small tanks who need more range. First is an extra accessory fuel tank -- one is from Italy (~$1000.) fits in the open volume opposite the muffler, the other sits where the passenger seat is. Second is the Rotopax as discussed above.

I looked at a used '10 (small tank) before I bought my '12 (large tank). I was planning on using a pair of Rotopax with the small tank.
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Old 03-11-2013, 07:22 AM   #4293
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I think you're missing the point. The number and quality of bikes that MG produces today is EXACTLY where PG wants them to be. No more, no less. It's not a result of "thinking small", it's a result of purposely structuring the company to produce a specific number of high quality bikes per year, not flood the market with them, and keep both the new selling price and used resale price high.

MG and PG had not been doing that, and they had a mess with bikes sitting in warehouses for YEARS collecting dust, selling them one at a time at a huge discount. My '08 Norge was bought new in late '09 for 30% below MSRP. PG finally said enough, purposely cut production wayyyyy back, and focused on quality, not quantity. The result of all that is what we have today - a quality product that sells for MSRP, is reliable as they come, and will likely resell, used, for more than the left over new bikes were selling for just a few years ago.

Like it or not, PG seems fine with the way things are, and it doesn't appear to be changing any time soon. Sure, that's going to drive some folks to look elsewhere, but as another poster said, they're selling all they make.

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You are not really a Monkey are you!? You and Chuck in Indiana are two very clever smat fellos. BTW very well said by both.
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:31 AM   #4294
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New bike day...
Gratz!!

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Old 03-11-2013, 09:32 AM   #4295
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New bike day...

Congrats, man!!!

May you have many enjoyable miles...

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Old 03-11-2013, 10:57 AM   #4296
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Congrats, man!!!
May you have many enjoyable miles...
Thanks. I had 5200 very enjoyable miles on the first NTX, then a real bad one, then 50 cold ones on the new NTX Saturday. Heated grips did not come with the 2013, but was able to get the dealer to throw them in.
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Old 03-11-2013, 01:11 PM   #4297
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Micatech v2's....

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Also, with regards to luggage, I've been looking at this as a replacement for my Trax. Not that I've had horrible luck with them, but they aren't water tight in torrential rains (at least for me) which is a bit of a pain in the ass.

Micatech makes a bag that bolts right up to our existing racks. I think this is the route that I'm going. Same material thickness as the Jesse's. Nice sealing. Made in the Good 'Ol U.S. of A.

http://micatech.net/products/v2-cases
That's what I was planning on doing: replacing the Trax with a pair of Micatech v2's. The Micatech's are better built but I hope to solve another problem of mine. My wife has limited foot space with the Trax boxes. She can't put the ball of her feet on the pegs because the boxes are in the way and sometimes we bump feet. The Micatechs appear to have a sloping shape on the leading edge as well as different mounting positions that would probably solve my problem. But it would be nice to see a picture of a set on a Stelvio before I make the purchase!
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:38 PM   #4298
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New bike day...

Congrats! New bike day is always a good feeling.
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Old 03-12-2013, 02:47 PM   #4299
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Engine paint

A quick question to higher-milage Stelvio owners: How's the black paint on your engine, gearbox and final drive holding up?

I ask because when the crinkle-black coating first appeared on Californias about 10 years back, an awful lot of bikes ended up as very expensive warranty claims as the paint peeled off.
This struck me as odd, because I had a 650NTX from the late 1980s - and its engine & gearbox was finished in a smooth coating that looked and felt a lot like powder-coating and was reasonably durable.
I'm wondering if the factory has opted for some coating other than simple paint on the latest models - and how robust it is.
Are stone chips an issue?
Also, how easy/hard it is to keep clean? The crinkle was a total bitch - one trip in the rain or on a wet dirt road and the paint went either grey or brown and was darn near impossible to get clean again.
I'm assuming that the smooth finish now applied is a lot easier to wash?
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Old 03-12-2013, 03:23 PM   #4300
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No issues at all with mine. I wash it thoroughly and then give it a wipe with Amorall when I want to make it all pretty like.
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Old 03-12-2013, 04:39 PM   #4301
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no issues with the engine paint at all.

easy to keep this bike clean
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Old 03-12-2013, 08:51 PM   #4302
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A quick question to higher-milage Stelvio owners: How's the black paint on your engine, gearbox and final drive holding up?

I ask because when the crinkle-black coating first appeared on Californias about 10 years back, an awful lot of bikes ended up as very expensive warranty claims as the paint peeled off.
"first appeared"?

The wrinkle finish appeared one year on Guzzis. 2002. Yes, it was bad on many bikes and there were recalls. Affected bikes were Californias and V11s.

In 2003 they went with a smooth black and have not had any further issues.
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Old 03-12-2013, 10:12 PM   #4303
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My 2003 Stone is crinkley black on the engine cases.

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"first appeared"?

The wrinkle finish appeared one year on Guzzis. 2002. Yes, it was bad on many bikes and there were recalls. Affected bikes were Californias and V11s.

In 2003 they went with a smooth black and have not had any further issues.
My 2003 Stone has black crinkle finish on the engine. It came from the factory that way.
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:30 PM   #4304
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+1
To misquote a famous quote:
"Roads? Where we're going, we don't need no damn roads - we're on a Stelvio!"
You certainly don't need blacktop - that's not what the Stelvio was built for: to drone down freeways - or even stay on paved roads - is to waste an awful lot of the motorcycle you just bought.

"You certainly don't need blacktop - that's not what the Stelvio was built for"

Why do you think it was named the Stelvio - a famous paved road...
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Old 03-13-2013, 01:32 PM   #4305
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My 2003 Stone has black crinkle finish on the engine. It came from the factory that way.
You only need to worry if it started out as a smooth, glossy black finish.
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