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Old 04-16-2013, 08:17 PM   #4576
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Where are you finding side carrier racks for a Stelvio on these sites? I couldn't find anything.
Factory racks are for SW mototech....they can also be used with pelican cases.
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:15 AM   #4577
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My bike now has 6200 miles on it. The dealer performed the break in service at 900, since then I've not had to add a drop of oil and it still shows full on the dip stick. Yes, I checked it on the center stand.
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:27 AM   #4578
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My bike now has 6200 miles on it. The dealer performed the break in service at 900, since then I've not had to add a drop of oil and it still shows full on the dip stick. Yes, I checked it on the center stand.
Mine has never used oil, even after all day powering across Germany, Belgium and France to get to the Channel Tunnel on time - still not a drop used.
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Old 04-17-2013, 05:16 PM   #4579
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My bike now has 6200 miles on it. The dealer performed the break in service at 900, since then I've not had to add a drop of oil and it still shows full on the dip stick. Yes, I checked it on the center stand.
Mine is at it's "happy place" which is half way between the marks. Been there since new, zero oil consumed.

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Old 04-17-2013, 05:52 PM   #4580
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Factory racks are for SW mototech....they can also be used with pelican cases.
Thanks Kirb!

How do you like your 2013 ntx? I am having trouble deciding whether to spend over $1,000.00 on side cases for my 2010 Stelvio or just pull the trigger on a new NTX.
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Old 04-17-2013, 06:59 PM   #4581
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NTX is a name they used previously a few decades ago for a small block (?) on/off road bike, so I guess they're giving the Stelvio a heritage with by adding the NTX moniker.
Yep V65NTX from the late 1980s, a development of the V65TT: the NTX had an integrated fairing inspired by the Paris-Dakar craze in Europe at the time, a 32 litre tank, taller gearing and longer-travel suspension than its more dainty sister; both had proper 21" wheels too.
There was also a 350 version, to cater for a quirk of European licencing.
Later a 750 NTX was available and had features like an enclosed front disc; it was widely used by Italian police and Nato.
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Old 04-18-2013, 09:59 AM   #4582
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Thanks Kirb!

How do you like your 2013 ntx? I am having trouble deciding whether to spend over $1,000.00 on side cases for my 2010 Stelvio or just pull the trigger on a new NTX.
The weather here has limited my mileage on the 2013 to about 200...I did put 5200 miles on my 2012 NTX in two months before the deer took it out. I like the bike so much that I bought another. That says alot of a guy with minor case of bike A.D.D. who can be annoyed with 'must haves' in bikes.

I think there are things about the NTX that I can't live without- fuel range is the biggest one (8.5G!). Heated grips while moving is another. Other than that, I don't think there is much to worry about that you can't change on your bike (narrow rear wheel, cast wheels, crash bars, etc).

Ask for a twisted throttle catalog...they show a photo of the SWM parts that you can use to mount pelicans and another brand (bags connection?). My NTX racks are pre-drilled for these parts as well, so I assume yours would be too.

Some things I did to my 2013 that may apply to your 2010:
http://stelviontx.blogspot.com/
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:42 PM   #4583
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I'm looking to replace my DL650 with one of the following: Stelvio, S10, T800 or - don't laugh - new DL.

Finally found a sympathetic dealer and demo'd a Stelvio this afternoon. Wow.

First, it felt great as soon as I threw my leg over - perfect ergos for me. But I felt the same when I sit-tested an S10 (more on that later). Sense of familiarity and ease continued from the first revolution of the rear wheel to the end of my 10 mile test. Very hard to explain, but the bike just felt like I'd ridden it for years. I had none of the apprehension that I might feel riding an unfamiliar, much bigger displacement bike that belonged to someone else. I got in the zone from the get-go. Amazingly confidence-inspiring, and as everyone has said, basically weightless once you get moving.

Concerns? I'm not used to the characteristics the Guzzi engine, and I found it hard to determine ideal shift points - by sound, it felt certain that the engine would lug if I upshifted, but it didn't. Also, engine was quite buzzy at around 3800rpm - not so much the bars, but pegs and especially seat. Will I get used to it? Will it smooth out over time? Who knows?

I rode an old (very old) BMW years ago, and rented an 1150GS in Germany a few years back. I could tell I was driving a shaftie. Not with the Stelvio. I really liked this bike.

Earlier in the day, I demo'd an S10. To tell the truth, I went into the day thinking the S10 was gonna be the one and didn't expect to prefer the MG, but there you are - what'd life be without delightful surprises?

While the Yam is undoubtedly a very nice bike, I quickly learned that it wasn't for me. Once moving, the ergos didn't suit me as well. The buzziness of the S10 engine bothered me much more than the MG's. I had more of the "sitting on rather than sitting in" feeling with the Yam. Never felt as much a part of the bike as I had on the Stelvio. And I found the gnashing racket of the engine really unpleasant. I know - earplugs.

The engine on the Yam is a marvel. Put that thing in sport mode and crack the throttle in second, you basically fly off the back. Fantastic rush, and the MG felt way pokey by comparison. But I think I'd prefer living day to day with the Guzzi's engine (which is plenty powerful, don't get me wrong) and overall package and forego the the S10's relative rocketry.

Oh, yeah, and I know I have no right cast the esthetic stone, owning a Wee, but the S10? Fugly! Fugly on stilts!

So, one down, MG still in the running, two to go. A dealer told me he might have a T800 for me to try next week. Not hopeful that I can find a Suzuki dealer who'll let me demo the DL, although I don't think the new ones are radically different from mine.

I guess I should give the Huns a shot at my wallet and check out the new GS, but it's gonna have to knock my socks off to overcome my reluctance to beta a new model of a bike with a significant pedigree of problems.

Anyway, you Stelvio guys...I get what you've been talking about.
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Old 04-18-2013, 02:54 PM   #4584
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Concerns? I'm not used to the characteristics the Guzzi engine, and I found it hard to determine ideal shift points - by sound, it felt certain that the engine would lug if I upshifted, but it didn't. Also, engine was quite buzzy at around 3800rpm - not so much the bars, but pegs and especially seat. Will I get used to it? Will it smooth out over time? Who knows?
Higher RPMS are good. I try to run at about 4000-5000 unless I'm crawling around in town and it's much smoother than that 3500-4000 range. In general, the vibes will decrease a bit over time. I don't really notice the vibration any more, but some tuning can probably also help if it's especially bothersome to you.

The Stelvio is a great bike (but I'm biased ). It's the least powerful of the bunch and not really a standout in any measure of the spec sheet, but in the end, I think that the complete package edges out all of its peers (which are all quite good, don't get me wrong).
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:29 PM   #4585
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I'm looking to replace my DL650 with one of the following: Stelvio, S10, T800 or - don't laugh - new DL.

Finally found a sympathetic dealer and demo'd a Stelvio this afternoon. Wow.
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Vibes - They will lessen over time. Could also be a case of mal-adjusted throttle bodies. She'll run rough if those aren't sorted. FWIW mine runs better (smoother) at higher RPMs vs. lower (i.e. it's smoother at 5k rpm than 4k rpm....in fact it's very smooth at 5k rpm).

Performance - I know it was a new bike so you likely didn't want to flog it, but if you get it to 5k rpm and give the right grip a good twist, you best be hangin' on. This coming from a guy who owns a Ducati. No, it's' not Ducati fast, but there is a whole different motorcycle under you above 5k rpm....

Best of luck with your choice. If it's any consolation, I too test rode the S10 prior to the Stelvio, with the initial intention of getting the S10 due to a fantastic deal on them at the time ($11,999), but ended up with the Guzzi. This is my 2nd Guzzi and it's a gem.

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Old 04-18-2013, 04:31 PM   #4586
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I'm not used to the characteristics the Guzzi engine, and I found it hard to determine ideal shift points - by sound, it felt certain that the engine would lug if I upshifted, but it didn't.

Also, engine was quite buzzy at around 3800rpm - not so much the bars, but pegs and especially seat. Will I get used to it? Will it smooth out over time? Who knows?
Easy cure for that is "don't ride it at 3800 rpm"...

Seriously, though, the engine will be much happier in the 4,000 - 5,000 rpm range for most cruising.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:09 PM   #4587
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I put Todd's fueling kit on my Stelvio and it is smooth at all RPM ranges now. No more vibration at 3800 or anywhere. It does not seem to have the snap that it once had but overall I am very pleased with the modification.

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:26 PM   #4588
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[QUOTE=brooklyn slim;21217328]I'm looking to replace my DL650 with one of the following: Stelvio, S10, T800 or - don't laugh - new DL.

OK, my bias is obvious...I really like the Stelvio NTX. With that said I'd recommend looking at the total picture. HP, weight, all the other magazine numbers...they all fall away when you think about how the bike feels when you ride it. Let's face it, after 6 months of ownership the bottom line is how the bike feels for you. The NTX is the best fit for me because it does everything well. I get great range (47 mpg, 8.5 gal), great ride (decent suspension), wonderful brakes, slick transmission, easy maintenance, lots of farkles (hard bags, bash plate, aux lights, crash bars, etc.) on a bike that actually handles well when the road gets twisty or challenging. It ain't the fastest, most expensive, lightest, or most complex of the bunch...just the best combination for me. It's interesting that you saw so many of those qualities on a short test ride. Believe me, the bike gets much better with age. At 10,000 miles it is just barely broken in.

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Old 04-18-2013, 10:03 PM   #4589
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Very few bikes break in as noticeably as a Guzzi.... they always have that character, but feel a bit tight and unwilling to rev happily until you get a few miles on them.
You can really feel them loosen up over the first few thousand miles.
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Old 04-18-2013, 10:29 PM   #4590
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And most importantly, incredibly hot women will constantly throw themselves at you when they learn you ride the Guzzi.
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