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Old 02-18-2014, 05:59 PM   #1
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The 2014 Gen 2 SuperTen BIKE thread.

I'll copy and past the highlights from the train wreck thread here as I can.

What I would like is to make this, as pluric said a "Readers Digest" If possible. Its about facts as much as possible.

So with the Readers Digest theme in mind, I'll try and stick to Copy and Paste.

The main thread should be used as the main social meeting place as usual. I'll try and copy anything relevant up from there.

And this one for the bar fights. (Remember the Sheriff is in town)
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:05 PM   #2
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Thanks for keeping the info flowing.

Yamaha Canada posted it on their website Jan. 10, along with prices and features. The Canadian price premium over the US price on Gen 1 SuperTen bikes was around $2500.

Unlike the Euro spec base model which comes without a top case rack, passenger grab handles and center stand, the CDN spec base model has them all. Price between base model and ES model is a $1000 and for that you get heated grips, ES suspension and the right side rear subframe right side cover.
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:12 PM   #3
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2013 / 2014 EU Model differences

From the link thread...

Differences between the 2013 XT1200Z and the 2014 XT1200Z and ZE (Europe), according to YAMAHA

2014 XT1200Z
•Refined engine with 112PS (82.4kW) @ 7,250rpm and 117 Nm
•Enhanced D-MODE switchable mapping characteristics:
•More relaxed and easy feeling in “T” mode
•More exhilarating and exciting sport riding in “S” mode
•Enhanced driveability from mid to high speed range
•More enjoyable feeling during acceleration and at higher rpm
•Smoother shifting up and down between 2nd and 3rd gear
•New: Manually-adjustable 4-position screen with GPS holder
•New: Cruise Control for more relaxed long distance touring
•Enlarged intake and exhaust ports
•Lighter camshaft assembly
•Redesigned piston rings
•New exhausts
•Enhanced shaft drive damper assembly
•New rubber clutch damper adopted
•Reduced weight
•New: LCD instruments with multi-function display
•New: Gear Position Indicator
•New: Compact LED flashers
•New: Extra protection cover under headlights
•New: Tapered aluminium handlebars
•New: Handlebar crown and bar holder
•New: Enhanced more upright riding position
•New: Redesigned 2-tone stitchless low-profile dual seat
•New: Tail cover
•New: Small muffler protector
•New: Redesigned forged aluminium sidestand

In addition the 2014 XT1200ZE has..

•Electronically adjustable front and rear suspension
•Total of 84 potential suspension settings
•Grip warmers fitted as original equipment
•Top case base
•Assist grip
•Main stand (Centre Stand)

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2013


2014


Website XT1200Z http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...er-tenere.aspx

Website XT1200ZE http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...er-tenere.aspx
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Differeces between CDN ZE and ZES

CDN 2014 XT1200ZE has extras fitted and differs from the Euro Z.
(Bit confusing. In Canada ZE is the Euro Z(plus bits) and the ZES is equivalent to the Euro ZE)

•Top case base
•Assist grip
•Main stand (Centre Stand)
•Yamaha blue and Matte Gray (Stealth Grey to some, dismal grey to others)


The CDN 2014 XT1200ZES has in addition to the Z

•Electronically adjustable front and rear suspension
•Total of 84 potential suspension settings
•Grip warmers fitted as original equipment
•Matte Gray
• + $1000

Website CANADA https://www.yamaha-motor.ca/products...up=MC&catId=94
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That is correct. The ES is available in matte gray, the standard in dark blue and matte gray.











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Old 02-18-2014, 06:24 PM   #6
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Australia - Rumors Only..

Latest says both (Z and ZE), Options, Price, Date TBA
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Old 02-18-2014, 06:25 PM   #7
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US 2014 xt1200z / ze?

Update..
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Originally Posted by fredz43 View Post
The USA Yamaha announcement of the remaining new models, including the Super Tenere will be Thursday, March 6 at 0900 PST. Info will be at:
http://yamahamotorsports.com/
From Dallara..

Yamaha sent this out to their USA dealers months ago (November 4th, 2013 to be exact), and it was posted here on ADVrider, as well as on other forums..

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Old 02-18-2014, 06:36 PM   #8
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Thagua just posted this up....

Differences S American 2013 to 2014.

The XT1200Z (2BS1) Europe which is the one we import in S.America comes in 3 colors:
Deep Purplish Blue Metallic C,
Mat Black 2,
Mat Gray Metallic 3. The Mat Black is not available to the 2BS1 Model but probably to the ZE.

A)Cylinder Head ... Cover; Cylinder Head 1
B)Crankshaft & Piston ... Piston (Std); Piston Ring Set (Std); Plane Bearing, Balance Weight
C)Valve... Spring, Exhaust Valve
D)Camshaft & Chain ... Tensioner Assy.,Cam Chain
E)Intake 2 ... Throttle Body Assy.; Switch (2BS-81860-00)
F)Exhaust ... Exhaust Pipe Assy.1; Sensor, Oxygen (both); Muffler 1; Protector, Muffler 1; Seat, collars and grommets
G)Frame ... Rear Frame Comp.; Stay, Engine 5; Cap, Main Pipe; Protector
H)Fender ... Damper, Seat
I)Front Fork ... Front Fork Assy. (LH/RH); Cylinder Comp. Front Fork; Oil Seals
J)Steering ... Nut; Washer; Crown, Handle Assy.; Holder, Handle Upper Lower with nut, washer, etc.
K)Fuel ... Cap Assy.
L)Seat ... Single Seat Assy.; Cover Single Seat; Tandem Seat Assy.; Cover, Tandem Seat; NO Grab Handles ... replaced by a grab cinch (2BS-24720-00)
M)Steering Handle & Cable ... Handlebar; Grip Assy.; Throttle Cable Assy.; Cap, Grip Upper/Under; Rear View Mirror Assy. (LH/RH); End, Grip (Both)
N)Front Master Cylinder ... Front Stop Switch Assy.; Holder, Brake Hose 5
O)Front Master Cylinder 2 ...Master CylinderSub Assy.; Cylinder Kit, Master (Clutch); Switch
P)Stand & Footrest ... Stand, Side; NO stand, Main
Q)Rear Master Cylinder ... Support (2BS-27432-00); Plate 2
R)Windshield ... Windscreen Assy.; ALL NEW support and adjustment
S)Flasher Light ... ALL NEW Front and Rear Flasher Assy.
T)Meter ... Meter Assy.; Case Meter Upper
U)Headlight ... Headlight Assy.; Cord Assy.
V)Handle Switch & Lever ... Switch, Handle 3 (Right); Switch Handle 7
W)Electrical 1 ... Main Switch Inmobilizer Kit; Engine Control Unit Assy; Inmobilizer Unit, Comp.; Earth Ground Cable; Wire Harness Assy.; Guide Cable
X)Electrical 2 ... Relay Assy.; Horn and support

Thats all folks ...
Cheers,
Roberto

Thanks Roberto.
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2014 First Impressions (From Teli Rides - Mexico)

Not a comparison to the 2013.

Hi,

I got my S-10 a couple weeks ago, I had $6,435 reasons for considering this bike this bike instead of 1200 GS LC I was lusting for, anyway I went to a yamaha dealer to check it out and fell in love with the looks of the gray one.

So I decided that the lack of electronic suspension was not a deal breaker an went ahead with the purchase, I saw also a leftover white '13 at the floor. The differences are minimal, aside from the Instrument Cluster, the modified controls, and the different shape mirrors they are identical. I must say that this little details make a difference in the perceived quality.

I think that deleting the centerstand was a stupid gimmick to say there reduced waight. Will be adding that in the future.

I decided on the new one because of the color, i just love it ..the white one looks like a cop bike.

Aesthetics aside I understand they fine tuned the engine modes for this model year, I can attest that in "T" mode the bike is tame and smooth, perfect for dealing with city speed, on 'S' mode its a whole another story it transforms itself in a fun bike for the twists with abrupt throttle response. Once on the move the bike hides its weight very well. Also with the windscreen a lll the way up the s 10 feels a lot slower than it really is, you are doing 100 mph in the blink of an eye, have to be careful, also even if I felt on average it a tick slower than my previous F650 Twin in the bends of a familiar road, actually I was going a little faster going in.

For road touring which is the main purpose of this bike Its a great Moto!


On Quality and things that annoy me:

On the first 40 km the screw for the ABS sensor came loose mid road and scared the shit out of me when the ABS warning came on and the traction control engaged out of nowhere, found a donor screw on a clip that held rear brake lines and a zip tied the lines and was able to continue on my merry way. On the second ride one Mirror vibrated loose and the screw for the windshield unscrewed itself. Everything was screwed back in place and OK. But never had to tighten anything on the GS for the first 2 yrs.

At first I first I felt the suspension a bit harsh on bad roads and "Topes" (speed bumps) I dialled the preload front and back all the way down and was much better. Then I took the bike for a very short run on a very easy dirt road, I found the suspension a harsh on the high speed bumps, I guess that on a long day I'd feel beaten with all the pounding on my wrists. I'll start monkeying with the other settings of the suspension. For me its not meant to be an mainly off road bike, I have the 690 E for that, and I guess it would not be fair to compare the suspension to the Orange One. But something has to be done to soften it, roads can get pretty bad around here and light dirt is always a possibility.

On the Yamaha Experience, they want me to take the bike every 3,000 km to service during the warranty period thats short of extortion... first two services are free on labor fees.
The manual clearly states 10K between services, I'd understand that kind of service intervals on a high revving R-1 Engine but on this bike?

Also on the insurance I got quoted ridiculously high premiums, I even at one point I got quoted $3,500 USD for a premium policy, I finally insured the bike for like 1,600 and hope I never scratch those nice fairings . I guess they throw the S-10 in the same category with the sport bikes, which are the most stolen and wrecked around here. Premiums for BMW's are way lower in these latitudes. (Mexico)


The bike is really nice and I hope it will give me many many years of service.

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JAPAN 2014 Specs..

How I managed to forget them I don't know..

Any one who knows chime in. I know they are out there.
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'14 s10

As a few may have seen, I am about to go from fz1 to S10. At the moment there are many great deals on new and used S10's in my area but I have heard a lot about about the the new '14. I am eagerly awaiting ride reports and reviews on the new yamaha so as to decide on which way to go.
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I know they're trivial details but does anyone know if the Gen 2 has a gear indicator? Also, did they give it an honest ambient temp readout?
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I know they're trivial details but does anyone know if the Gen 2 has a gear indicator? Also, did they give it an honest ambient temp readout?
It is my understanding that it does.
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