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Old 11-18-2014, 08:29 AM   #1
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broken in.....

Well it finally happened, after 8 years of riding 365 days, I went down. Going down a steep hill with snow covered spots I had to brake. Not wanting to use front brake, I hit the rear before a stop sign and a patch of snow. ABS kicked in and I felt the rear lock and start sliding right. First thought was im going down and sure enough fell left then caught asphalt and highsided me right and flung me off. Crashbars and right pannier took the brunt of damage with only minor scrapes on top plastic pieces. Now I got to figure out a way to undent the corner of my trax box.......corners caved in and hammer won't even push it out.....

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Old 11-18-2014, 09:43 AM   #2
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Take it to a auto body shop. The have some neat stuff for getting odd dents out.
Even a press might work.
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Old 11-18-2014, 12:32 PM   #3
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:33 PM   #4
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Well it finally happened, after 8 years of riding 365 days, I went down. Going down a steep hill with snow covered spots I had to brake. Not wanting to use front brake, I hit the rear before a stop sign and a patch of snow. ABS kicked in and I felt the rear lock and start sliding right. First thought was im going down and sure enoenougt fell left then caught asphalt and highsided me right and flung me off. Crashbars and right pannier took the brunt of damage with only minor scrapes on top plastic pieces. Now I got to figure out a way to undent the corner of my trax box.......corners caved in and hammer won't even push it out.....
Glad you seem to be ok.
If the abs kicked in, how come the rear locked? I thought the purpose of abs was to keep the brakes from locking up? What am I misunderstanding?
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:37 PM   #5
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Instead of rolling through the snow spot when ABS kicked in it stopped the tires from spinning briefly causing the tire to skid from under me. If ABS was off I would have kept rolling through and slowing down. I was wearing Alpinestars Andes touring gear and it worked like a charm. I slammed on my shoulder and asscheek and didn't feel a thing.
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:40 PM   #6
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Instead of rolling through the snow spot when ABS kicked in it stopped the tires from spinning briefly causing the tire to skid from under me. If ABS was off I would have kept rolling through and slowing down.
The tire stopped spinning briefly then the ABS kicked in. You got it backwards.
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:50 PM   #7
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ABS keeps the tire from locking up by stopping and rolling again very quickly, it was that stopping motion that started the skid......
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Old 11-18-2014, 01:54 PM   #8
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ABS keeps the tire from locking up by stopping and rolling again very quickly, it was that stopping motion that started the skid......
Nah. You are the one locking it. You are blaming your tools.

Sucks that you went down, but it helps if you understand why.

Unless it's a backwards ABS system that is. You can try and convince me though.
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Old 11-18-2014, 02:25 PM   #9
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Nah. You are the one locking it. You are blaming your tools.

Sucks that you went down, but it helps if you understand why.

Unless it's a backwards ABS system that is. You can try and convince me though.
The ABS only engages once it has noticed a stopped wheel, not before. ABS doesn't prevent you from locking up the tire, it just steps in, after the fact, to keep the tire from staying that way.
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Old 11-18-2014, 03:26 PM   #10
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Well it finally happened, after 8 years of riding 365 days, I went down. Going down a steep hill with snow covered spots I had to brake. Not wanting to use front brake, I hit the rear before a stop sign and a patch of snow. ABS kicked in and I felt the rear lock and start sliding right. First thought was im going down and sure enough fell left then caught asphalt and highsided me right and flung me off. Crashbars and right pannier took the brunt of damage with only minor scrapes on top plastic pieces. Now I got to figure out a way to undent the corner of my trax box.......corners caved in and hammer won't even push it out.....
'Never happened. ABS would never have allowed it.

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Old 11-18-2014, 03:33 PM   #11
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Any way to adjust the sensitivity of it then? I barely touched rear brake and it activated....
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:35 PM   #12
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Don't worry about the dented box, scars are a badge of honour... and proof you really do ride your bike for what it is meant.

At least you came out of it ok.
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Old 11-18-2014, 07:35 PM   #13
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The ABS only engages once it has noticed a stopped wheel, not before. ABS doesn't prevent you from locking up the tire, it just steps in, after the fact, to keep the tire from staying that way.
Correct. And the better ones actually look at deceleration of the wheel and may act before a lock. So it's important to know how your particular ABS system works, just as it is important to figure out early whether you can lock the front end with one finger versus a fist full.

All ABS systems operate slightly differently.

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Old 11-18-2014, 07:40 PM   #14
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Don't worry about the dented box, scars are a badge of honour... and proof you really do ride your bike for what it is meant.
What he said.
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Old 11-19-2014, 07:46 AM   #15
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I don't care much for cosmetics. But the box I'd like to not be able to fit my hand through it.....
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