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Old 01-08-2013, 02:09 PM   #51346
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Talking about re-gearing and that sort of stuff, does anybody know if a linner from a Shoie RF1000 or 1100 will fit, or can be made to fit, an old RF800?
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:21 PM   #51347
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Humm, why didn't I notice that?
You're riding on a highway!
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:22 PM   #51348
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what? The discussion of hand warmer controls or oil or transmission gear ratios or the secnic pictures or upside down fork oil levels? Oh wait, we haven't touched that one yet.

How much oil is in your usd forks??? I's got to know...
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Old 01-08-2013, 02:44 PM   #51349
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Can we all just put this in neutral Green light

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Old 01-08-2013, 02:45 PM   #51350
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What??? Not enjoying the ride????

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Old 01-08-2013, 03:09 PM   #51351
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...Actually I use the same tactics as Fritz, because I ride so far out in the middle of nowhere, oftentimes with no cell coverage, that if I got hurt bad from hauling too much ass, I could end up in a seriously bad situation I still like to tear it up abit when riding with friends, or closer to home tho
+1 (i.e., ditto!)
When with friends it's always a bit of competition of sorts, it seems.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:20 PM   #51352
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...XR250L ... seems so slow it reminds me of my XL100 I had back in '75.

For me slow is safe. ... 15 minutes of fun followed with a few days of pain ...
The difference is considerable between the 650 and 250. But it's more than being slow. I had the worst wreck of my life on my XR250L while my 650 was down. The 250 doesn't feel as secure and stable as the 650. Plus you can blast your way through knarly stuff with the 650 where the 250 doesn't have the pull to do it. There have been a couple of times where the power of the 650 has saved my bacon, big-time!

I can only 'really' ride for about 5 to 10 minutes before I'm too wasted and have to back down. Too old, and don't ride enough to go at it hard for long. At the end of a day of riding, I'm shot, and it's usually about four days until my muscles don't hurt anymore.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:40 PM   #51353
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...I'd rather live with the stock gearing than split the crankcase. ... I installed the XR650R C/S sprocket because I don't want to split the crankcase!
However, if I ever need to... I would also install the newer spring for the gearshift spindle. ... Walter informed us the 2005 and earlier models of the XR650L use part #10, which was replaced by the beefier, part #27 in 2006. Thank you, Walter. ...
Splitting the crankcase isn't that bad, Spud. It only takes eight months. Most of that time is spent psyching up to do it, and getting the parts on hand. Then it's about two days to pull the engine with a friend, pop it apart, do your stuff, and put it back together, and pop it back in again with a friend. (them thangs is heavvvy!)

But I'm with you, I'd only do it if necessary to repair.

I don't recall what my spring looked like, 10 or 27. Mine's a 2004. I do remember seeing some spring that I thought was pretty wimpy. I'll be super-bummed if I have the weak one and it breaks 'cause I didn't know to replace it with the beefier one. Good to know, though; better late than never.
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:44 PM   #51354
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no!

Don't want to play along eh bunkie??

The reason I ask is because back when I did the CRF USD forks on my bike I referred to my daughters CRF450r manual for the oil spec and went with what it said. Some months ago I got another set of forks (can't have enough spares ya know) and did a full rebuild, bushings and seals. This time I compared service manuals between the CRF-R and my son's CRF-X and the X spec is about 100cc less oil.


So what says the peanut gallery??
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Old 01-08-2013, 03:58 PM   #51355
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Don't want to play along eh bunkie??

The reason I ask is because back when I did the CRF USD forks on my bike I referred to my daughters CRF450r manual for the oil spec and went with what it said. Some months ago I got another set of forks (can't have enough spares ya know) and did a full rebuild, bushings and seals. This time I compared service manuals between the CRF-R and my son's CRF-X and the X spec is about 100cc less oil.


So what says the peanut gallery??

I will bite.....

The higher the oil level in the outer chamber gives a harsher fork action and increases resistance to bottoming.

The lower the oil is exactly as you would think more plush but less bottoming resistance


Just rebuilt/went through a set of 2000 CR250 Showas (very similar to the crfs I think) and my outer chamber oil spec was 350 (ish) mil.
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Old 01-08-2013, 04:14 PM   #51356
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You're riding on a highway!


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Old 01-08-2013, 04:21 PM   #51357
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The difference is considerable between the 650 and 250. But it's more than being slow. I had the worst wreck of my life on my XR250L while my 650 was down. The 250 doesn't feel as secure and stable as the 650. Plus you can blast your way through knarly stuff with the 650 where the 250 doesn't have the pull to do it. There have been a couple of times where the power of the 650 has saved my bacon, big-time!

I can only 'really' ride for about 5 to 10 minutes before I'm too wasted and have to back down. Too old, and don't ride enough to go at it hard for long. At the end of a day of riding, I'm shot, and it's usually about four days until my muscles don't hurt anymore.

I have this problem.... You might relate... My right wrist has two positions ... On and Off...

My problem is it likes to stick in the On position.... The 250 doesn't try to ride away without me like the 600 will.

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Old 01-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #51358
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...But I'm with you, I'd only do it if necessary to repair.

I don't recall what my spring looked like, 10 or 27. Mine's a 2004. I do remember seeing some spring that I thought was pretty wimpy...
I'm with you. I would rather ride it, than wrench on it. But, if I had to pull the bottom end apart, I would swap the second and fifth gears.

Your 2004 model has the old, wimpy spring. The 2006, and later models, have the beefier spring.



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Old 01-08-2013, 04:29 PM   #51359
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Really? Here's just up the " highway " from that shot.




I got your highway right here
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[QUOTE=ONandOFF;20430484]Splitting the crankcase isn't that bad, Spud. It only takes eight months. Most of that time is spent psyching up to do it, and getting the parts on hand. Then it's about two days to pull the engine with a friend, pop it apart, do your stuff, and put it back together, and pop it back in again with a friend. (them thangs is heavvvy!)

About 130 lbs. I had the rotator cuff surgery to prove it I have no friends
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