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Old 01-08-2013, 09:44 PM   #51376
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Good. I'm very glad to read this rumor. I was pestering the Rekluse folks for a big bore RFVC EXP auto clutch awhile back. They had initially replied back that one was in development, but later said it was a no-go for the XRL/RFVC.

When the EXP came out for the XR650R (which has the same steel plates but frictions with shorter tabs), I commented about the lack of an auto clutch for the XRL/RFVC. It was said that the problem with the RFVC clutch was due to the primary gear ratio. The XRL/RFVC engine design spins the clutch basket too slow for the EXP clutch to function smoothly. There must not have been enough room in the EXP housing for heavy enough weights to give proper auto clutch operation.

Perhaps they used depleted uranium wedge weights for the XRL EXP auto clutch

I do hope this new clutch is an EXP auto for the XRL. I understand that the EXP (and the old REVLOC dynaring) can be adjusted at the perch to return the clutch to normal mode; thus allowing for bump starts if needed.
I understand that there are issues that have to be resolved, but it seems like they have figured out a solution. I did not understand half of the explanation I heard. They's some smart folks
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Old 01-08-2013, 10:55 PM   #51377
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Don't want to play along eh bunkie??

The reason I ask is because back when I did the CRF USD forks on my bike I referred to my daughters CRF450r manual for the oil spec and went with what it said. Some months ago I got another set of forks (can't have enough spares ya know) and did a full rebuild, bushings and seals. This time I compared service manuals between the CRF-R and my son's CRF-X and the X spec is about 100cc less oil.


So what says the peanut gallery??
The forks should be more progressive with more oil, because when they compress, the compressed air adds to the spring force as it's compressed (and with more oil you have less room for that air, so the air pressure rises faster). The force from the air pressure increases in a non-linear manner as the forks compress, whereas the spring force increases in a linear manner as the forks compress unless you have a progressive spring. More progressive is not necessarily better though. Can you tell I have been a good boy reading the Race Tech Suspension Bible? I'm hoping to get my suspension totally dialed this year.
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Old 01-08-2013, 11:25 PM   #51378
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I decided to go ahead and give the powerbomb a try on my bike.....I'm going to cut open the top of my airbox and mount up the bomb with my Big Gun silencer and slightly rich jetting, and see what kind of performance gains I get. I've read that you get the best gains from a header if you open up the airbox more for better flow. ThumpnRed was pleased with the gains he got from the bomb....I'll let you guys know how it works for me
BTW here's a link to the FMF powerbombs for our xrl's for 231.19 shipped to your door if anybodies interested http://www.oemcycle.com/Item/product/900012464
They also have the Hi-Flow for 199 to your door if anybody wants to try one.
Wish me luck
Do us a big favor, slap on the Powerbomb and go for a ride and report back to us before you cut open the air box, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is curious to If just the pipe is going to make a difference,
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:50 AM   #51379
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I would try x-eleven liner.They are removeable.They are 2 piece with separate cheek pads. If you found them at a dealer you could try for size.There are different thicknesses for different sizing.
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Old 01-09-2013, 05:53 AM   #51380
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Humm, why didn't I notice that?
You got to get it out of first to notice

just kidding, I've been a few places in Colorado that I did not get out of first







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Old 01-09-2013, 06:52 AM   #51381
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You got to get it out of first to notice

just kidding, I've been a few places in Colorado that I did not get out of first






My hat is off to you sir!
It is a great thing you do leading a group of Girl Scouts on a trail ride ike that.

Serriously though, won't you spend almost as much changing gears in a XRL as you would buying a good used 250 or 350 Enduro bike?
I mean you are not just going to split the cases and replace the gears. You will end up spending $1000 or more on the engine rebuild!
For a few dollars more you can have a much more capable bike to handle this kind of off road.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:15 AM   #51382
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My hat is off to you sir!
It is a great thing you do leading a group of Girl Scouts on a trail ride ike that.

Serriously though, won't you spend almost as much changing gears in a XRL as you would buying a good used 250 or 350 Enduro bike?
I mean you are not just going to split the cases and replace the gears. You will end up spending $1000 or more on the engine rebuild!
For a few dollars more you can have a much more capable bike to handle this kind of off road.
Those pictures of you were at "the steps" right? That place sounds very intimidating to me. Not sure I want to attempt that one. This was a little deal from last year on Webster/Red Cone pass. I was a little puckered and never really right after this little episode!

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:27 AM   #51383
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The guy who hinted that one is in the works is well connected to Rekluse. He also rides an XR650L
Darned things are not cheap though!
The Rekluse EXP seems like the one to have. As you go up their food chain you pretty much are "Hinson-ing" your clutch. It's pretty reasonable at $399. I'm going to eventually get one for my new smoker. In a week I'm going to get a chance to try one out on my buddy's KTM300.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:42 AM   #51384
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Don't want to play along eh bunkie??

The reason I ask is because back when I did the CRF USD forks on my bike I referred to my daughters CRF450r manual for the oil spec and went with what it said. Some months ago I got another set of forks (can't have enough spares ya know) and did a full rebuild, bushings and seals. This time I compared service manuals between the CRF-R and my son's CRF-X and the X spec is about 100cc less oil.


So what says the peanut gallery??
I'll play. I use 10W oil (raises and steepens the damping curve) and I use 375cc of oil. That's the cheap way of making a fork for a 240lb. bike work for a 330+ lbs. The bike is a touch under sprung, though, but has a very nice damping curve for the riding I'm doing.
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:48 AM   #51385
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Those pictures of you were at "the steps" right? That place sounds very intimidating to me. Not sure I want to attempt that one. This was a little deal from last year on Webster/Red Cone pass. I was a little puckered and never really right after this little episode!


Nice pucker factor and save at the end... I think the crash was a good plan. When he moved for you he made the back end harder to get around from what I could tell.

I'm not a fan of steep loose drop offs like that...

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Old 01-09-2013, 07:48 AM   #51386
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Correction, Steve, I used 400cc in my '05 forks.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:03 AM   #51387
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Nice pucker factor and save at the end... I think the crash was a good plan. When he moved for you he made the back end harder to get around from what I could tell.

I'm not a fan of steep loose drop offs like that...

I had to drop the bike quickly so I wouldn't get poop on the seat.
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:46 AM   #51388
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Really? Here's just up the " highway " from that shot.

I got your highway right here
That's beautiful, Fritz! It looks like a scene from Ecuador!
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....I've been a few places in Colorado that I did not get out of first




Wow... these three look like the forest roads around here, Jota!

I'm seeing third gear... maybe second in the last one for not seeing what's beyond the top
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:57 AM   #51389
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Correction, Steve, I used 400cc in my '05 forks.

Thanks. I can do one of two things. Either change the oil in the forks that are on the bike now to the X spec or swap over to the spare overhauled 08 forks. Decisions, decisions...
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Old 01-09-2013, 08:59 AM   #51390
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Thanks. I can do one of two things. Either change the oil in the forks that are on the bike now to the X spec or swap over to the spare overhauled 08 forks. Decisions, decisions...
Are the 08's conventional or USD's?
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