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Old 02-12-2013, 06:01 PM   #53701
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I decided a LONG time ago, I wasn't going to have to rely on torque wrenches to get me through life. I "learned" how various torque ranges "feel" by referencing the torque wrench. I'll still pull one out for doing head bolts or somesuch for peace of mind and which helps maintain my "calibration" but for the thousands of things I've tightened over the years, from 2-56's to 3/4-10's, no issues. Also good is practicing stripping and breaking threads to know what it feels like leading up to it and occurring. Not on something you may have to spend hours repairing, of course, but there's lots of opportunities at landfills and junkyards. You can practice on loose nuts and bolts at home using a good vise mounted to a solid bench.
You know...thaats not a bad idea, practicing stripping things out. Unfortunately over a life time of wrenching I've had first hand experience with it on things I didn't want stripped

I only use torque wrenches on items that are delicate and need a good seal, or crucial for safety or engine rebuilding. I usually use a fairly short-handled 3/8's drive socket, it keeps me from overtightening things, and I have a good feel for the size. The inch/lb torque wrench, like most torque wrenches, has a long handle for leverage at the higher torques. Without the feel I have, I could have stripped those tiny 8mm head bolts with 2 fingers if I would have kept going, waiting for the click. Thankfully I knew it wasn't working before I stripped/snapped anything, but it sucks it had to be the smallest torque wrench, on the most delicate bolts, that quit. My next inch/lb is going to be a quality brand

I just wanted to warn guys so they'd be aware if they had a "Horrible" Freight special. Mine could have potentially ruined a simple oil change
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:03 PM   #53702
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Why don't you go down to The Basement, Joe. People here are tired on your antics.

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:03 PM   #53703
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Really?

Who called who a piss ant?
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:04 PM   #53704
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how would you know that? and if so how would you come to that conclusion from reading some of my posts...and how could you determine from reading some of my posts that you know more than I could ever mechanically?

WTF times a million

and if I AM a dumbass...I have the abilty to accept it...even If im not...I dont think Im a genius either and never will be...

I also dont feel the need to correct EVERYONE...

lastly if people think Im a dumbass deep down well so be it...if anyone thinks that and is here reading this go right ahead, Ill have a beer on you guys...

I dont mind

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:09 PM   #53705
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Im not the worst person on here.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:11 PM   #53706
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Wanna bet?


Your damn annoying for a newbe.


How about going over to Thumper Talk and see how they like your shit.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:17 PM   #53707
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Wanna bet?


Your damn annoying for a newbe.
Ok , I appologize if I have upset anybody or stepped on their toes. I HAVE read every page of this thread and its a little hard to hold back in the face of miss or partial information. There is a lot of that here. Newby? Only on here.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:24 PM   #53708
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Im not the worst person on here.
Siggghhhhhhhhhh

So does that make it correct.as long as you aren`t the "worst person" here..you need to step back boss,,re-read some of your posts....you are not making friends here with your attitude..

Just mellow out,,people are not Rocket scientists here like you said before,,remember.......but we are not idiots either..correcting someone is fine....just ditch the attitude please bud..

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:26 PM   #53709
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I didnt have an attitude until I was given one.
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:26 PM   #53710
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Wanna bet?


Your damn annoying for a newbe.


How about going over to Thumper Talk and see how they like your shit.
We take less of that there Steve,trust me.....Rich will boot people quickly if necessary..

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:29 PM   #53711
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I didnt have an attitude until I was given one.
Not trying to bash you Joe.....but you have had it here since day 1..re-read your posts.....

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Old 02-12-2013, 06:35 PM   #53712
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I wasnt correcting anything you said .YOU need to read and comprehend. I do know more about anything mechanical than you do , ive read all of your posts. Somebody shows you how to put air in your tires by yourself and you think youre some kind of moto-genius. I know youve got a lot of friends here , but deep down they think youre a dumbass. I do have to admit , some of my friends are indeed dumbasses.

i would like to go on record as stating that i do not think elsalvadorklr is a dumbass
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:36 PM   #53713
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:38 PM   #53714
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We take less of that there Steve,trust me.....Rich will boot people quickly if necessary..

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I used to be a reg on TT long before this site. It got very annoying with people talking crap with lots of bike bashing. I was always pleased by the XR650l community because we were always nice, helpful, and respected each other. I was pleased to see people here exhibiting that same comradery.

THIS NEW TONE BLOWS!
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Old 02-12-2013, 06:41 PM   #53715
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Bluhduh Over 17 years + many bikes since my last XR oil change, forget what a pita it can be

I just changed the oil on my xrl.....its been over 17 years since I owned my last XR...I had forgotten how much of a pita it can be, with the 2 drain bolts, and messy azz cartridge filter on the side of the engine to change.
I was as careful as I could be, but what a mess that friggin' cartridge oil filter was to replace. I had to take the bike outside and hose down the skid plate to get all the oil out of it.....and that was all from the filter change.
I made a tinfoil funnel for the lower crankcase drain, to direct all the oil through the skidplate oil hole....worked perfectly....until I changed the filter

And then I had to find out through research here, and experimentation, exactly how much oil to put in the oil tank without overfilling it and making another mess. So I added oil, checked level, added, checked, added ad nauseam, until I found out my bike holds 1 1/2 quarts to fill the tank (good info for next time).....then an idle and short ride around the block, then a quart more to bring it to full. So 2 1/2 quarts to full for an oil/filter change.....a little more than the "approximately 2.06 U.S. quarts" the owners manual says

I had read of some guys putting in 2 1/2 quarts and figured they must be overfilling their bikes.....but after coming back from the quick ride and topping off, I went for a longer more "aggressive" ride, came back, shut her down, waited about 2 minutes (as usual) checked the oil bike upright, and it was still right on the full mark.

I'm actually glad the bike holds more oil then I thought, better for our oil longevity and engine cooling capacity, which equates to longer engine life

This aint no 1 1/2 quart KTM
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