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Old 06-17-2013, 02:05 PM   #59986
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OK folks, I'm hoping you guys want to talk steering stabilizers for a minute. I know things like this often mask set-up issues, but I noticed my new XRL in its current form and my old one too have this near-death front end wallow above 60MPH that's likely related to the D606s or maybe the windscreen on my bike but either way, both bikes had the same issue and these were two things in common.

So, I'm thinking of springing for Scotts because at 60MPH I'm barely breaking idle. I realize I'll need taller bars and probably have to MacGyver a few things.

Any comments, suggestions?

RZ Rob
Death grip and or poor slow speed rebound and dampening settings can have great effect on this too.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:37 PM   #59987
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I was really pleasantly surprised by how the Trailwings handled everything. I'm running 20psi and it seems to do ok everywhere.
Did somebody say the Dunlop D606 front sucks?
I don't mind puttering on the slab, I can go in the woods
All I'm saying is that I was irritated and disappointed when I found out that I had been riding two years on a front Trailwing thinking things were fine until I wore it out and switched to a Scorpion Pro, what a HUGE improvement, I went from feeling like I had a ski in the front on the edge of always sliding out to actually being able to turn the bike in the direction I wanted to go, having that be my second tire I still decided to experiment with other front tires, I tried the Surge I next, it looked like a really good tire...nope, (sorry Spud, perhaps our riding styles differ and the terrain is that much different) I was back to feeling like the tire was going to slide out from under me all the time, It got a little better feel dropping down to 12psi and wanted to go lower but I have had tires slip on the rim from braking anything under that.
on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being best) out of the tires I have tried:
1. Trailwing
3. Surge I (was going to be a 2 until I was coming down Shasta Bally Mt and hit some mud and it held a little better then I thought It would)
10. Scorpion Pro

I almost feel like a snob because I am actually going to buy another Scorpion Pro and put it on and park the Surge I at 850miles.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:48 PM   #59988
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Now I need a stabilizer as it wants to go fast.

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If you get inspired could you take a closer picture of the clearance of your QS3 to the starter?

P.S. I don't think you'll regret getting the stabilizer, I really like mine
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:58 PM   #59989
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OK folks, I'm hoping you guys want to talk steering stabilizers for a minute. I know things like this often mask set-up issues, but I noticed my new XRL in its current form and my old one too have this near-death front end wallow above 60MPH that's likely related to the D606s or maybe the windscreen on my bike but either way, both bikes had the same issue and these were two things in common.

So, I'm thinking of springing for Scotts because at 60MPH I'm barely breaking idle. I realize I'll need taller bars and probably have to MacGyver a few things.

Any comments, suggestions?

RZ Rob
Just my $.02, but I would figure out what the issue with the shake is first. I had a few issues like that that I fixed, tire pressure was one culprit and my windscreen angle was the second. After I fixed those I had no problems with head shake at speeds well in excess of the speed limit.

When I was looking into the stabilizers the thing that ultimately turned me off to them was that they are most utilized for offroad use, and I don't get to do nearly as much offroad as I want to. I might get one in the future, but I'll probably get SM wheels first.

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Old 06-17-2013, 03:27 PM   #59990
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OK folks, I'm hoping you guys want to talk steering stabilizers for a minute. I know things like this often mask set-up issues, but I noticed my new XRL in its current form and my old one too have this near-death front end wallow above 60MPH that's likely related to the D606s or maybe the windscreen on my bike but either way, both bikes had the same issue and these were two things in common.

So, I'm thinking of springing for Scotts because at 60MPH I'm barely breaking idle. I realize I'll need taller bars and probably have to MacGyver a few things.

Any comments, suggestions?

RZ Rob
Bought one brand new about 3 years ago had it on about 3 months & tried every setting & really saw no improvement or difference? Sold it for 1/2 price to a friend. Preload setting, tire, rider position all make a difference. For me on my bike the faster I go the more stable it is when you are on the gas but not when you let off. Run 55 to 70 across the Res, very stable with no Scotts or fork brace??
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:01 PM   #59991
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If you get inspired could you take a closer picture of the clearance of your QS3 to the starter?

P.S. I don't think you'll regret getting the stabilizer, I really like mine
So the QS3 clears the starter no problem, but it does come close to the crankcase breather vent hose. I'll snap a pic tonight.

I'm glad to hear what you say about the stabilizer. Changing the bars seems like a hassle. I just wish I could figure out what's causing the issue. I'm convinced it's the D606 up front.

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Old 06-17-2013, 04:13 PM   #59992
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I'm convinced it's the D606 up front.

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Easily could be I have had poor tire match issues on a street bike at least once.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:23 PM   #59993
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So the QS3 clears the starter no problem, but it does come close to the crankcase breather vent hose. I'll snap a pic tonight.

I'm glad to hear what you say about the stabilizer. Changing the bars seems like a hassle. I just wish I could figure out what's causing the issue. I'm convinced it's the D606 up front.

RZ Rob
Bring it over here & we will get it right Each bike is a little different. I know on other lighter bikes, guys swear by them? I have the Protaper Pastrana FMX bars with the 52 mm bar risers. You want the front end light but not so light that it won't turn well. Just really have to experiment until it works for you.
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #59994
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Steering head bearing adjustment

Tire pressures

Shock pre-load

Loose nut behind the wheel.


Oh, that's right. No steering wheel...
Maybe wheel bearings too
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Old 06-17-2013, 04:58 PM   #59995
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OK folks, I'm hoping you guys want to talk steering stabilizers for a minute. I know things like this often mask set-up issues, but I noticed my new XRL in its current form and my old one too have this near-death front end wallow above 60MPH that's likely related to the D606s or maybe the windscreen on my bike but either way, both bikes had the same issue and these were two things in common.

So, I'm thinking of springing for Scotts because at 60MPH I'm barely breaking idle. I realize I'll need taller bars and probably have to MacGyver a few things.

Any comments, suggestions?

RZ Rob
If you got the big , long , floppy ass stock front fender it'll induce a wobble sometimes too.
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:01 PM   #59996
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If you got the big , long , floppy ass stock front fender it'll induce a wobble sometimes too.
Really
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:03 PM   #59997
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Old 06-17-2013, 05:12 PM   #59998
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I would say stick with the stock sprocket and grease often with moly paste and monitor- and report back after 5000 miles!

Also, so many are saying leaner than the 55/158 works best, so start a little leaner than that if you do the standard mods.


The Honda dealer delivered the bike for me today after work. I've got 11 miles on it.

I like the bike, it fits me pretty well. It feels good to have a new motorcycle in the garage. I haven't bought a new one in a long time.
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:28 PM   #59999
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I would say stick with the stock sprocket and grease often with moly paste and monitor- and report back after 5000 miles!

Also, so many are saying leaner than the 55/158 works best, so start a little leaner than that if you do the standard mods.

Yessir Dave , I would agree with your words , I'm at 55/155 , seems great on top , but maybe a litte fat from the crack ,

I have desnorkel , desmogged , uni , fmf power4 , runs damn good like this ,

I was at 158 and it was way to big , went to 155 and is way better ,I will try 152 sometimes along with back at 52 ,

But will do it 1 step at a time to see whats what ,


Oh , and BTW , @ sea level .
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Old 06-17-2013, 07:48 PM   #60000
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Does anyone have an extra stock rear suspension linkage they'd like to sell? A buddy of mine is trying to set his suspension back to stock... The guy he bought it from had lowered the bike and didn't provide the stock linkage when he sold it.

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