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Old 06-21-2006, 07:32 PM   #781
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GOT 8500 MI ON MY 01, WANT TO DO THE 14/48 CHANGE. WILL I STILL BE ABLE TO HOLD 70 MPH FOR SOME SUSTAINED INTERSTATE RIDES?
XRING,ORING,NO RING? SUGGESTIONS?
I'VE HERD SUN STAR SPOCKETS ARE A GOOD LONG WEARING PRODUCT. OPINIONS?



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Hey Rondo,
14/48 gearing is not what you want for holding 70mph for a long time. If your doing that, you should stay stock or just drop the CS sprocket 1 tooth.

I've always bought X ring chains, dunno if they are any better but they work. This last time I bought Primary Drive brand Chain and Sprockets ( Gold X-ring chain and 14/48's and it only cost around $85, that was from rockymountainatv.com

I used Sunstar before that and they are also very good, Got 8000 miles of mud, sand, gravel and some highway out of them. The key is STEEL. Get steel sprockets.
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Old 06-21-2006, 07:32 PM   #782
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GOT 8500 MI ON MY 01, WANT TO DO THE 14/48 CHANGE. WILL I STILL BE ABLE TO HOLD 70 MPH FOR SOME SUSTAINED INTERSTATE RIDES?
XRING,ORING,NO RING? SUGGESTIONS?
I'VE HERD SUN STAR SPOCKETS ARE A GOOD LONG WEARING PRODUCT. OPINIONS?

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Rondo,
You're talking XR650L right? I have smog junk removed and did the carb mod thing and UNI air filter. Stock exhaust etc. I am running 15/48 final gearing and altho I have ridden it at 70mph a few times for appx. 15 mile stints, I thought the engine was working a little too hard (rpms too high). I wouldn't want to ride it for extended periods at 70mph with my 15/48 gearing. But that's just me. Maybe others will chime in?

Get an O-ring chain. X or O. Sunstar steel sprockets are good. I like steel sprockets on my 650 because they wear better than aluminum. I know alloy is lighter, but who cares?! The bike already weighs well over 300 lbs! Now if you are anal about un-sprung weight, alloy sprockets might be important to you.

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Old 06-22-2006, 04:28 AM   #783
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According to "Mr. know it all" in the June issue of Dirt Bike magazine, X ring chains have it all over o-ring chains.

"The name X-ring is a DID trademark for that company's premium product. An X-ring is sealed better, is made of better material and is much much more expensive (about $150 versus $95). Dont get confused by tensile strength ratings. They mean nothing. DID offers a "wear index" rating that is much more useful. Their standard O-ring has an index of 2300, whereas the X-ring is rated at 4000. That means it will last almost twice as long. If you insist on lubing am o-ring chain, be sure to use very light lube that is designed specifically for the chain. The main function is to prevent corrosion."

He must be right, after all his name implies that he "knows it all".
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Old 06-22-2006, 10:00 AM   #784
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According to "Mr. know it all" in the June issue of Dirt Bike magazine, X ring chains have it all over o-ring chains.

"The name X-ring is a DID trademark for that company's premium product. An X-ring is sealed better, is made of better material and is much much more expensive (about $150 versus $95). Dont get confused by tensile strength ratings. They mean nothing. DID offers a "wear index" rating that is much more useful. Their standard O-ring has an index of 2300, whereas the X-ring is rated at 4000. That means it will last almost twice as long. If you insist on lubing am o-ring chain, be sure to use very light lube that is designed specifically for the chain. The main function is to prevent corrosion."

He must be right, after all his name implies that he "knows it all".
So far my regina o-ring chain is doing a bit better than the X-ring I had did, the X-ring started getting stiff links early on.
I know it wasn't the lube, I wonder of I did something else to it?

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Old 06-22-2006, 11:05 AM   #785
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My XR650L should be all put back together by the weekend. So far my bill includes

Changed all fluids
Adjusted valves
lubed chain
New neutral switch
new clutch plates
new clutch cable
new grips
New set of Avon Gripsters
New fork seals
heavier fork oil
set of Cortech bags

I'll try to get some shots this weekend. I'm hoping to take a trip to the North Georgia mountains on Sunday.

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Old 06-23-2006, 11:46 AM   #786
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[quote=Shair_Khan]Hi all,

Since we have so many people with different views / experiences with XRl50L oil issue. Some go by the book with 2.06qt and others are using even more than 3qt.... We all know that low oil level can hurt the engine!

Does anyone know if you have too much oil.... would that hurt the engine / transmission or anything els


You don't want to over fill it....when the oil heats up it expands and you need room for that to happen
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Old 06-25-2006, 09:47 AM   #787
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Question Removing the Junk!

Hi All,

I have few questions regarding smog block off kit for the folks who have installled it on their XRLs...

1. Is it worth it? Does it make any significant difference?
2. Do you have to rejet the carb, if you install the smog block off kit?
3. Cost? and where to buy?
4. What is the installation difficulty level?
5. Any other words of wisdom for someone who has never messed with the smog system on cars or motorcycle?
6. Does that create any problem when time for inspection sticker?

Thank you, in advance, for your response.

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Old 06-25-2006, 09:59 AM   #788
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Hi All,

I have few questions regarding smog block off kit for the folks who have installled it on their XRLs...

1. Is it worth it? Does it make any significant difference?
2. Do you have to rejet the carb, if you install the smog block off kit?
3. Cost? and where to buy?
4. What is the installation difficulty level?
5. Any other words of wisdom for someone who has never messed with the smog system on cars or motorcycle?
6. Does that create any problem when time for inspection sticker?

Thank you, in advance, for your response.

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I had a machinist make some block off plates for mine and did the do it yourself version posted on 4strokes.com. All you really need is the plates, then you reroute some of the hoses that are already there. IMS makes a kit and is available through Baja Designs and others. Installation of either the homemade or the IMS kit is easy and really cleans up the look of the bike, it also TOTALLY removed the popping on deceleration with my bike.

The smog kit requires no mods to the carb, I dunno about the inspection thing.
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Old 06-26-2006, 05:58 AM   #789
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:31 AM   #790
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revisit smog kit from above thread

Does removing the smog crap improve permormance?
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Old 06-26-2006, 10:38 AM   #791
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Does removing the smog crap improve permormance?
Nope.
Gets rid of that annoying popping (how un-stealthy that is!) and a few pounds- that's all.

Looks better, too.
Maybe the airflow around the cyl. improves a skosh also?

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Old 06-26-2006, 02:18 PM   #792
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Hi all,

Since we have so many people with different views / experiences with XRl50L oil issue. Some go by the book with 2.06qt and others are using even more than 3qt.... We all know that low oil level can hurt the engine!

Does anyone know if you have too much oil.... would that hurt the engine / transmission or anything els


You don't want to over fill it....when the oil heats up it expands and you need room for that to happen
I'd have to challenge the idea that the oil is really expanding all that much. You'd be hard pressed to measure how much it expands. The real issue is how much remains in the engine sump and how much you put in the frame. If you get too much in both locations, it will have to blow out somewhere.

Rule of thumb should be to put in the 2 qts and run the engine good. Not just idle. I've noticed on mine that idling it checked low after I stoped it, but once I reved it up it check ok. I just add till it's completely full though, which is ALWAYS more than 2.06 qts.
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:27 PM   #793
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The motor looks alot better without all that crap ( it would look ALOT better if I cleaned the damned thing ) and doesn't pop anymore ( usually )
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Old 06-26-2006, 06:15 PM   #794
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Oh wise suspension Guru's

I never got the owners manual for my bike and even if I did, I doubt I'd understand it. I'd like to set up the suspension on my XRL to suit me. My bikes suspension is totally wrong right now, too stiff and tall in the back end.

I realize that I could release some tension on the spring, but its already within 1/2" from the top or so. What I'd like to know is what do the adjustments do?
The slot on the shock reservior, and the adjuster on the bottom. I realize they are probably compression and rebound, but I really don't understand how that will affect the bike.

Also, what do the adjusters on the bottoms of the forks do?
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Old 06-27-2006, 03:56 AM   #795
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smog again

Do you think bike will pass NJ inspection without it?

Rokklym

It does look better without.
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