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Old 03-03-2009, 05:53 AM   #1
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XR650R vs. TE610

Yeah, I know the XR has won Baja a hundred times. I know the TE610 comes with blinkers and has the magic button (and is a better bike for long slab sections). What I want to know is how these bike compare offroad. They're pretty close in weight (when similarly equiped), and close enough in displacement. So which one shines offroad for moderate trail riding. I'm buying a bike this month and I've got it narrowed down to either a TE510 or TE610. I know the 510 is a better dirtbike than the 610, but if the 610 will hang with (or beat) an XR, then I may as well go with the 610. Help make up my mind.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:19 AM   #2
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Your best bet is to try to find two examples that YOU can ride. Someone else's experience will be helpful, but only in context.

I think they're both very good bikes.
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Old 03-03-2009, 07:40 AM   #3
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You want a 510. The 610 handles like a dump truck. Great adventure bike but not a dirt bike for heavy trail use.
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Old 03-03-2009, 08:49 AM   #4
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I had an XR650R. Sold it for a 610. Sold the 610 and bought another 650R.

Your title says 650R vs. 610 yet it sounds like it should say 610 vs. 510?

The 610 is great but it is a little clumsy in tighter stuff...but hey, what big bike isn't?

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Old 03-03-2009, 08:54 AM   #5
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I agree the 610 is more of a handful on the trails... but a "dumptruck"? That's harsh IMHO.

I've ridden both on tight(ish) trails and fast two track and if it was just there... the 510. But if you want to travel any distance on anything approaching tarmac, the 610 is what you're looking for. If you want to travel over 65 miles without having to fuel up, the 610. If you want a bike with great power delivery and decent comfort, the 610.


If you want a bike for short(ish) dirt trips after trucking it to the trails - the 510. If you don't care about long rides, the 510. If you want a bike that has power like a runaway jackhammer, the 510. If you want a bike with a bit more amphibious capability - the 510. If you require a bike that is invisible beneath you in terms of weight and handling - the 510.


I've ridden a Honda. I liked it A LOT. But compared to the Husky... I'd take either one over the Honda (Don't flame me! I'm a Honda lover true blue but in this case... well, the Husky has it).


Just my relatively unskilled opinion...


Oh and what am I currently riding? A BMW X-Challenge... with NO PLANS TO change (ever).


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Old 03-03-2009, 11:22 AM   #6
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Xr650r...
Te610 was disappointment for me...
I think that DRZ400e,Xr600r and Xr400r are also good choice`s.But,if you choose between Te610 and Te510...
Definitly Te510...
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Old 03-03-2009, 12:02 PM   #7
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If you want a bike for short(ish) dirt trips after trucking it to the trails - the 510. If you don't care about long rides, the 510. If you want a bike that has power like a runaway jackhammer, the 510. If you want a bike with a bit more amphibious capability - the 510. If you require a bike that is invisible beneath you in terms of weight and handling - the 510.
I've got a TE510 with 6000 miles on it in one summer. I've spent many days riding 250 to 300 miles in all conditions (single track, double track, dirt road and pavement). With more daylight I'd knock off 400 miles easily.

With the IMS 3 gl tank you can cope with 100 mile re-fuels and still have no worries about running out.

The 610 ridden at the same speed as the 510 will be a short trip bike. Give the 610 100 miles of single/double track before the dirt road and you might as well call it quits. Wrestling additional weight and a bike with geometry for straight line stability will take a toll.

Your only limitation on the TE510 will be fuel range and the stock saddle.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:29 PM   #8
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I agree with BeemerWolf, these bikes are different enough that you should be leaning towards one or the other. I doubt you can go wrong with either. However, I think the XR makes a fine dualsport, lack of electric start aside.

One thing I would consider is parts, extras, and modifications. I don't know about Husky, but an after market tank for KTM is $350 or more. A 6.6 gallon tank can be had for the XR for $220. Not to mention OEM parts - Honda is cheaper and more readily available across the board. This didn't used to matter to me, but it does now. I still love KTM and would love to try a Husky someday, if I had a dealer close, but for now, the XR is the one.
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Old 03-03-2009, 02:34 PM   #9
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I started on a XRL Honda and think my 610 is some kind of supercross bike in compiarson. Note how similar the designs and geometries. Most all is equal between the two bikes except the Husky has a lower center of gravity making it handle better both on and off road and a six speed trans. making tight trails maneuvering a breeze. Both are built tough as nails.
In the huge Houston area, I must ride a ways on the road to get to a place to ride off road. Since the Husky does roads as well as the XRL and is way better off road I am a happy camper on the Husky.
My Honda has now assumed more of a utility role getting the job of camping and fishing trips.
Consider parts availability. For me there are 7 maybe 8 Honda dealers in the Houston area. There are two Husky dealers, I have found so far, in the state of Texas. Cost of parts has been similar so far. Lead time for Honda parts is 3 to 8 days, for Husky two weeks.
If you love the dirt and just need to be legal on park roads get a 250. 450 on up if your needs are similar to mine.

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Old 03-03-2009, 02:58 PM   #10
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XR650R is the better all rounder, i've owned both as well.
More power, more reliable, just as smooth at speed and much better in the tighter tracks, lighter.
It only suffers in the suspension & estart areas, but i plan to put USDs on to sort that out. Estart isnt needed unless i'm doing lots of nasty hillclimbs often.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:09 PM   #11
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XR650R is the better all rounder, i've owned both as well.
More power, more reliable, just as smooth at speed and much better in the tighter tracks, lighter.
It only suffers in the suspension & estart areas, but i plan to put USDs on to sort that out. Estart isnt needed unless i'm doing lots of nasty hillclimbs often.
Take what this guy sez with a grain of salt lad. He is riding upside down to us!
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:31 PM   #12
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I started on a XRL Honda and think my 610 is some kind of supercross bike in compiarson. Note how similar the designs and geometries. Most all is equal between the two bikes except the Husky has a lower center of gravity making it handle better both on and off road and a six speed trans. making tight trails maneuvering a breeze. Both are built tough as nails.

Just so you know Honda XRL are completely different bikes to a xr650r which is the Honda we are talking about. Due to that I'm not at all surprised you like the 610 better.
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:35 PM   #13
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Take what this guy sez with a grain of salt lad. He is riding upside down to us!
You've lost all credibility, you ride a harley
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:41 PM   #14
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Gaspipe (XR650R) and Bigdog (TE610) did the TAT ride together.

I remember seeing the Gaspipe comment that the bike worked well together in that application.

feel free to search ride reports yourself.

kickstarting an XR can suck. My wife can come over and show you how to do it. it's all technique.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:06 PM   #15
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Your best bet is to try to find two examples that YOU can ride. Someone else's experience will be helpful, but only in context.

I think they're both very good bikes.
I wish I could. I can't even find used Huskys locally right now and the closest dealer is several hours away. That said, I WILL NOT shop at the local Honda stealership so I'd have to drive for those parts anyways.


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I had an XR650R. Sold it for a 610. Sold the 610 and bought another 650R.

Your title says 650R vs. 610 yet it sounds like it should say 610 vs. 510?

The 610 is great but it is a little clumsy in tighter stuff...but hey, what big bike isn't?
I've read all the 610 vs. 510 threads. Of course the 510 is better offroad. But I want to compare the 610 to a more common bike who's capabilites are proven. I know the 510 is the better dirtbike, I want to know if the 610 is "good enough."
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