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Old 05-06-2013, 06:57 AM   #17236
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Does anyone know a GOOD dyno shop in the area? I'm looking to sort out my fueling (carbs) a bit, and I lack seat-of-the-pants-dyno-fu.
Find out if Brooklyn Motor Works still has a working dyno post-Sandy.

Gold Coast also has a dyno but I can't say anything as to quality.

Rockwell is well-liked and they have a dyno if you consider that "in the area".
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Old 05-06-2013, 06:57 AM   #17237
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Does anyone know a GOOD dyno shop in the area? I'm looking to sort out my fueling (carbs) a bit, and I lack seat-of-the-pants-dyno-fu.

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Old 05-06-2013, 07:03 AM   #17238
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Find out if Brooklyn Motor Works still has a working dyno post-Sandy.
I'll check, but I don't get the impression they're still in business.


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Gold Coast also has a dyno but I can't say anything as to quality.

Rockwell is well-liked and they have a dyno if you consider that "in the area".
Rockwell is definitely in the area.

Gold Coast has a dyno? That might work out well. (I get my parts from them so...)
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:13 AM   #17239
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A dyno is a tool, not a savior. It is like a computer and only as good as the person using it. I have about 15 years of dyno experience before teaching and I can say that only a few shops or worth using.
Frank@Powerhouse knows his crap and though I have not spoken to him in over 10 years he is an old friend and will do you right.
Orient Express, Joey is as good as they come when it comes to tuning.
Ivan is a smart guy, a bit opinionated and makes a few good products. I am not sure of his tuning prowess but I imagine it is pretty good.
Gold Coast-No idea of their ability. I will say that many are capable of FI but not carbs if they are a newer tuner.
ROckwell-No idea, but they seem to be good guys who are knowledgeable
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:26 AM   #17240
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A dyno is a tool, not a savior. It is like a computer and only as good as the person using it. I have about 15 years of dyno experience before teaching and I can say that only a few shops or worth using.
Frank@Powerhouse knows his crap and though I have not spoken to him in over 10 years he is an old friend and will do you right.
Orient Express, Joey is as good as they come when it comes to tuning.
Ivan is a smart guy, a bit opinionated and makes a few good products. I am not sure of his tuning prowess but I imagine it is pretty good.
Gold Coast-No idea of their ability. I will say that many are capable of FI but not carbs if they are a newer tuner.
ROckwell-No idea, but they seem to be good guys who are knowledgeable
Never really looked into Dyno time as I always though of it as prohibitively expensive.
Is that the case?
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:33 AM   #17241
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A dyno is a tool, not a savior. It is like a computer and only as good as the person using it. I have about 15 years of dyno experience before teaching and I can say that only a few shops or worth using.
Frank@Powerhouse knows his crap and though I have not spoken to him in over 10 years he is an old friend and will do you right.
Orient Express, Joey is as good as they come when it comes to tuning.
Ivan is a smart guy, a bit opinionated and makes a few good products. I am not sure of his tuning prowess but I imagine it is pretty good.
Gold Coast-No idea of their ability. I will say that many are capable of FI but not carbs if they are a newer tuner.
ROckwell-No idea, but they seem to be good guys who are knowledgeable

I don't know much about dyno sessions. I was looking at it as a way to get quantitative data on a/f and HP/torque so that I can get to the bottom of why I'm consuming fuel faster than a burning oil well.

My thread on OC: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884887
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:41 AM   #17242
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Hi Guys,

Anyone have a recommendation for a welding shop in Brooklyn? I need to a have 1/4" nut welded onto a 1/8" (or so) 8"x8" piece of plate steel. I'd love to get it done tomorrow, Saturday, so any recommendations are appreciated.

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Old 05-06-2013, 07:42 AM   #17243
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I don't know much about dyno sessions. I was looking at it as a way to get quantitative data on a/f and HP/torque so that I can get to the bottom of why I'm consuming fuel faster than a burning oil well.

My thread on OC: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884887
Um...how much do you weigh?
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:46 AM   #17244
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I don't know much about dyno sessions. I was looking at it as a way to get quantitative data on a/f and HP/torque so that I can get to the bottom of why I'm consuming fuel faster than a burning oil well.

My thread on OC: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=884887

is that why you keep getting new bikes! serious?!? you haven't noticed a pattern here on every bike you own? the fuel economy goes down when YOU get on it. come on quit blaming the bikes
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Old 05-06-2013, 07:47 AM   #17245
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A good dyno operator is not cheap. I would guess about a $100 and hour. You want to see what the Air-fuel ratios are at different RPMS and throttle positions. Then adjust accordingly. They will set your main jet first (probably your culprit) then the needle position and maybe needle profile, then the pilot jets and air screws.
You need to work backwards to do it correctly, since there is a lot of overlap of circuits.
Not knowing how hard it is to get to your carbs and make changes I would say 3-4 hours to do the job.
If it is done right it is money well spent.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:04 AM   #17246
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x2 what Rich said with one additional tidbit. some people don't like a properly jetted bike. I've seen many different jetting threads where people now that its too rich here or to lean here but jet it that way because it feels right to them or its how they liek the trottle response etc etc etc.

What you shoudl ask yourself is what exactly are you trying to correct and then figure out if its a jetting issue. Some things are like a definite flat spot, popping, surging and stuff like that. If ist you just dont liek the way the power comes on or it just doesnt feel right it may be your personal riding style and just handing the bike off to a dyno tuner may not "fix" the way it feels and may make it actually worse. You may get more from your money by talking to the tuner first and telling them exactly what you want out of the job
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:05 AM   #17247
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Um...how much do you weigh?

You think that might have an impact?
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:07 AM   #17248
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is that why you keep getting new bikes! serious?!? you haven't noticed a pattern here on every bike you own? the fuel economy goes down when YOU get on it. come on quit blaming the bikes

What has two thumbs, and is the common denominator in all my problems?
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:19 AM   #17249
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x2 what Rich said with one additional tidbit. some people don't like a properly jetted bike. I've seen many different jetting threads where people now that its too rich here or to lean here but jet it that way because it feels right to them or its how they liek the trottle response etc etc etc.

What you shoudl ask yourself is what exactly are you trying to correct and then figure out if its a jetting issue. Some things are like a definite flat spot, popping, surging and stuff like that. If ist you just dont liek the way the power comes on or it just doesnt feel right it may be your personal riding style and just handing the bike off to a dyno tuner may not "fix" the way it feels and may make it actually worse. You may get more from your money by talking to the tuner first and telling them exactly what you want out of the job
Great points. I used to create maps for roadrace teams and one team I worked with had two equally good riders, and they liked totally different maps. One wanted hard hitting maps and no over revs in corner. The other preferred an easier kit and over revs in corners.
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Old 05-06-2013, 08:25 AM   #17250
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Hey guys, a former local who moved to the west coast just rolled into town on his R1150GS and blew out his rear shock.

Anyone local happen to have a spare lying around?
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