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Old 10-10-2013, 08:32 PM   #19141
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As if it makes a difference...
Even worse, no brake light.
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:41 PM   #19142
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he let off of the throttle, he didn't brake check.
What about the other 3 dozen young men in armored jackets and full face helmets who felt like playing dick dick games with a 5000Lb truck?

They didn't force the truck to stop?

How can a motorcyclist with an ounce of common sense remotely defend these shit bags?




In one Sunday afternoon, they dragged public street motorcycling perception back to Hollister 1947.

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Old 10-10-2013, 09:44 PM   #19143
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So have any charges been filed on the SUV driver for running over the motorcyclist? No matter how fearful he was, he could not for example, run over pedestrians without being charged.
Sure he could. If his car was surrounded by a mob that was trying to get into the car to the point where he was reasonably afraid for his life or for serious injury, you're damn straight he could legally plow through those motherfuckers and get out of there. Nobody in this world has any duty to sit there and get killed so as not to run over the guys who are trying to kill him. Self-defense wins every time.

Hell those guys had gotten off their bikes and were trying to get into the car so in that sense they were a mob of pedestrians at that point.
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Old 10-10-2013, 10:42 PM   #19144
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How can a motorcyclist with an ounce of common sense remotely defend these shit bags?
Not defending. It pains me to see facts misrepresented.



OK, I am done stirring the pot now. Can we go back to complaining about checkpoints or threatening rude neighbors or something?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:51 AM   #19145
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Do pedestrians generally surround 3 ton trucks on the west side highway and try to manually brake check them?
Is the after-the-fact penalty for brake checking death or dismemberment?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:53 AM   #19146
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Sure he could. If his car was surrounded by a mob that was trying to get into the car to the point where he was reasonably afraid for his life or for serious injury, you're damn straight he could legally plow through those motherfuckers and get out of there. Nobody in this world has any duty to sit there and get killed so as not to run over the guys who are trying to kill him. Self-defense wins every time.

Hell those guys had gotten off their bikes and were trying to get into the car so in that sense they were a mob of pedestrians at that point.
No, the run-over was before the surround and attempted break-in, IIRC.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:54 AM   #19147
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you're an imbecile.
Thanks for the in-depth analysis.
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:56 AM   #19148
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No, the run-over was before the surround and attempted break-in, IIRC.

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Old 10-11-2013, 04:57 AM   #19149
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Am I wrong on that? In the video I watched, about 54 seconds in is when the run-over occurs. It was later that some riders attacked him. AFAIK, you cannot-- as another example-- begin indiscriminately begin spraying bullets to escape danger.

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Old 10-11-2013, 05:05 AM   #19150
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I think is is a sympathy for the KLR riders thing that has him questioning the obvious. Oh does anyone want to let him know that the Earth is not flat?
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:36 AM   #19151
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Not defending. It pains me to see facts misrepresented.
Pointing out a possible chargeable offense (me, not you) by the SUV driver is not defending the motorcyclists. OTOH, a motorcyclist's simply being there does not constitute criminality.
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Old 10-11-2013, 05:37 AM   #19152
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I think is is a sympathy for the KLR riders thing that has him questioning the obvious. Oh does anyone want to let him know that the Earth is not flat?
Yeah. I'll take the side of KLR riders every time.
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:09 AM   #19153
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How can a motorcyclist with an ounce of common sense remotely defend these shit bags?
No motorcyclist with an ounce of common sense is defending those shit bags.

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Old 10-11-2013, 06:21 AM   #19154
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Am I wrong on that? In the video I watched, about 54 seconds in is when the run-over occurs. It was later that some riders attacked him. AFAIK, you cannot-- as another example-- begin indiscriminately begin spraying bullets to escape danger.
At 54 seconds in, all I see is what looks like an attempted car-jacking of a $75k truck by a gang of thugs.
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Old 10-11-2013, 06:31 AM   #19155
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The bikerz keep coming out and doing interviews, giving out their real names, and showing their faces and saying "...we are not thugs...just because we look like thugs, doesn't mean we are...as you can see in the video, we were following the law..." Then the Mieses Team first said "...he was going over to check on the downed rider..." Then they stopped playing that card and started playing the "...he just wen't over to difuse the situation..." Then helmet cam guy comes forward with a lawyer speaking for him and says "...a water bottle was thrown from the SUV through the sunroof..."

Now the celebrity lawyer is claiming the SUV hit someone else prior to the video and THAT'S what started it all. Mr. Cruz then says he was "...switching lanes so he looked back at the driver..."

The sad part is that I think these guys will just plea down to misdemeanors and traffic tickets, while some judge awards Mieses $5M because the SUV driver COULD have avoided him in his get away, even if he was panicked and felt threatened. He COULD have done something different. It will be absurd, like the judge's ruling in the Joseph Lozito lawsuit. That was probably discussed somewhere else here, but for those who don't know, the NYPD never made a DIRECT promise to protect the people of NYC and therefore have no special duty to protect the people of NYC.
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