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Old 12-24-2013, 11:06 AM   #19801
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Again, I was specifically referring to the old lady being hit by a crew of squids ON QUEENS BLVD- if you hit a pedestrian on that road there is something wrong with you. Are you not familiar with the road?
Here's a different take... That road is widely publicized as the "Boulevard of Death" and for the most part it is pedestrians getting killed, not motorists. If a pedestrian is unable to cross safely then there must be something wrong with them.

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The reason why it's called the boulevard of death- is NOT because of jaywalking, it's the gypsy cab drivers- speeding, some uninsured, some unlicensed, and frankly, shouldn't be allowed to drive an elephant.
You do realize you are completely incorrect, right?

If not, you ought to do a little research before spraying claims portrayed as facts.

When Queens Boulevard was given the moniker "Boulevard of Death", which by the way came about around 2001 when a 14 year old girl ran out into the roadway against the light and was struck and killed by a speeding (read: traveling at a fairly typical speed for a twelve lane state highway) minivan, the media stated that in 79% of the pedestrian fatalities on that road, the blame was put on speeding vehicles. I thought that was interesting at the time so I checked the DOT statistics myself and found that in 78% of the pedestrian fatalities on that road, pedestrians did not have the right of way.

The fairest thing I can say about this is two wrongs don't make a right.

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Crossing at the light is not Jaywalking. They were in the crosswalk. The issue was not having long enough time to cross all the lanes.
Crossing at light when the light has instructed you to stop, most certainly is jaywalking and misjudging the time necessary is not an excuse. NYC municipal law says you must remain at the curb the moment that the DON'T WALK indicator begins to flash.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:28 AM   #19802
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Crossing at light when the light has instructed you to stop, most certainly is jaywalking and misjudging the time necessary is not an excuse. NYC municipal law says you must remain at the curb the moment that the DON'T WALK indicator begins to flash.

And, just to clarify... I'm pretty sure I'm not putting words into your mouth when I say: Obviously, nobody is seriously saying that pedestrians who jaywalk deserve to be hit by a car. But, they are also not completely responsibility-free!

Pedestrians are lowest on the "food chain", followed by bicyclists and motorcyclists. And we're all far more vulnerable than cars.
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Old 12-24-2013, 11:29 AM   #19803
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Old 12-24-2013, 04:14 PM   #19804
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Obviously, nobody is seriously saying that pedestrians who jaywalk deserve to be hit by a car. But, they are also not completely responsibility-free!
And there it is. This is becoming a game of word subtleties.

To say someone deserves something is to say that they warrant some sort of reward or punishment, typically for doing something in particular.

So strictly speaking, a jaywalker deserves a desk appearance ticket, not to be punted through the air by a motor vehicle.

If and when a jaywalker does get punted and/or crushed, especially on a road that is widely known for having taken the lives of hundreds of people, that jaywalker does not deserve compassion or sympathy.

When we read reports about some numb-nuts sticking a hand into a lion cage at the zoo and pulling back a shredded stump, do we rush to sympathize?

Let's be clear here. The woman who was struck by the motorcycle in Woodside was crossing against the light. She was jaywalking and nobody can argue to the contrary. The NY Daily News reported that video footage proved the motorcycle had a green light. The motorcycle was registered and street legal.

What is interesting is that witnesses initially told police the bike ran the light. Also interesting is that WABC-TV (which predictably and immediately blamed speeding for the collision) reported Baker was one of a group of 20 motorcycles but the Daily News said "about five". Draw your own conclusions.

And if anyone here wants to be truly sickened, read the reader commentary on the CBS article.

Meanwhile many articles contain babble from the NYPD saying that Queens Boulevard is popular for drag racing, but the weekend and non rush hour traffic signal timing in that area hardly lends itself to that.

The pedestrian has been identified as 78 year old Marion Kurshuk, described by one neighbor as "a nice old lady who refused to let her age bog her down" and who "had a problem getting around". "She was always going, but she was always careful," Margaret Poncel, another neighbor, said. "She liked to go."

Apparently she wasn't that careful, after all.
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Old 12-24-2013, 04:40 PM   #19805
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Getting away from asshole jaywalkers (aka Darwin Award contestants) for a moment...

It's that time of the year once again, when I take mom for a drive to see the ridiculously gaudy and amazingly impressive Christmas light displays adorning people's homes and properties. I have a list of this year's destinations below. If you think I'm missing something notable, please contribute!!!

In order to keep seat time reasonable I'm restricting the tour to Brooklyn and Queens, with a slight detour through Rockaway this year to see a heavily publicized home at Beach 143rd and Neponsit Avenue.

Brooklyn

310A 22nd Street (South 'Slope) 6th-7th Avenues (5p-10p

Corner of Flatlands Avenue and East 93rd Street, Canarsie (yes really)

Of course, Dyker Heights 11th to 13th Avenues between 83rd and 86th

I'll also be criss-crossing western Bay Ridge for its overall festiveness but no specific homes in particular.

Queens

166th Street and 23rd Avenue, Bayside (til 1am)

185-07 80th Drive, Jamaica Estates (til midnight)

80th Drive and Chevy Chase Street, Fresh Meadows

76th Street and 77th Avenue, Ridgewood (go early!)

56th Avenue and 214th Street, Bayside

And honorable mentions at 157-18 26th Avenue, Bayside

FWIW that last one also puts on a good display for Halloween.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!
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Old 12-24-2013, 05:18 PM   #19806
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each of you may choose a different route so i just made waypoints. available here
Nice, thanks!

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Old 12-24-2013, 08:52 PM   #19807
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Old 12-24-2013, 09:39 PM   #19808
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MERRY XMAS everyone!

Speaking of.
Has anyone seen this awesome new toy?
http://ridescorpio.com/ride/

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Old 12-24-2013, 10:10 PM   #19809
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Old 12-24-2013, 10:41 PM   #19810
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Has anyone seen this awesome new toy?
http://ridescorpio.com/ride/

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Old 12-25-2013, 08:23 AM   #19811
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Old 12-25-2013, 08:33 AM   #19812
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:08 AM   #19813
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:28 AM   #19814
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Old 12-25-2013, 09:45 AM   #19815
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MERRY XMAS everyone!

Best to you and your family, Nef!


Merry Christmas, all you hardened New Yorker Commuters!
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