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Old 04-04-2006, 06:19 PM   #1
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Servicing an XR650R...?

Yes, I have joined that dark side...I sold my Dakar and bought a BRP. The previous owner had let this XR650R sit for a while while he rode his KTM, so I would like to do a complete fluid change and service the carb to make sure everything is okay. Right now the bike starts very well and runs well with the throttle on but will idle only for a few seconds then quit. It also slightly sputtered a coulpe of times, nothing big though,(i'm being very picky) maybe just needs some good gas run through it. Any suggestions and help would be great in bringing my new BRP up to tip-top shape.
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:17 PM   #3
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Is it uncorked?
Does it have proper jetting? or a Quicksilver carb.?
How long has it been sitting?
Does it have fresh fuel?
All that can contribute to the rough idle.
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:46 PM   #4
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If it's uncorked and has been sitting for awhile, I would think that the carb is clogged up. A simple tear down and cleaning the jets is in order. I don't think there are any Uncorked XR650R's out there that aren't on the dealer floor. Buy a Quicksilver for it as soon as you can, and always shut off the fuel when done riding for the day.

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Old 04-04-2006, 11:03 PM   #6
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Is it uncorked?
Does it have proper jetting? or a Quicksilver carb.?
How long has it been sitting?
Does it have fresh fuel?
All that can contribute to the rough idle.
Its uncorked already, I just put fresh fuel in it but haven't run it a bunch. Sounds like a quicksilver carb is the way to go? What makes it so much better than the stock? Not sure about the jetting..what should the jetting be with the quicksilver carb? Also not sure how long its been sitting, a matter of months, not years though. Just bought a bunch of after market parts for it though..
-baja designs dual sport kit
-acerbis handguards
-acerbis sahara 6 gal tank
-black excel rims w/spoke kit
-dunlop D606 tires

An africa queens front fairing will be added later this year, along with a good seat. Any other suggestions?
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:10 PM   #7
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If it's uncorked and has been sitting for awhile, I would think that the carb is clogged up. A simple tear down and cleaning the jets is in order. I don't think there are any Uncorked XR650R's out there that aren't on the dealer floor. Buy a Quicksilver for it as soon as you can, and always shut off the fuel when done riding for the day.

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Old 04-05-2006, 12:20 AM   #8
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Looks like you've got a good one there. I've just finished the first part of my BRP project and it's set up similar to yours (Acerbis tank etc. I'll be posting a small project write up later this week). Took it for a 150miler this weekend to test it out, lots of fun, you should enjoy.

I think jetting with the stock carb (uncorked) is 175 main 68 pilot and make sure the fuel screw is set (start at 1 3/4 turns out). Run some good fuel through it and it should be fine. Also check the valves. Let us know how it works out.
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Old 04-05-2006, 07:51 AM   #9
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Pilot Jet

If it's not idling you need to clean out the pilot jet. As someone else said clean out all the jets and I usually use compressed air.

I just got my BRP last week as well. Literally no use at all and it's a 2001 with the original rear tire.

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Looks like you've got a good one there. I've just finished the first part of my BRP project and it's set up similar to yours (Acerbis tank etc. I'll be posting a small project write up later this week). Took it for a 150miler this weekend to test it out, lots of fun, you should enjoy.

I think jetting with the stock carb (uncorked) is 175 main 68 pilot and make sure the fuel screw is set (start at 1 3/4 turns out). Run some good fuel through it and it should be fine. Also check the valves. Let us know how it works out.
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Thanks for the input.. I'll be going through the carb today and cleaning it. I'll let you know how it goes.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:09 AM   #11
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The Quicksilver carb was the best upgrade I did, could never get the stock carb setup right. The next was a high output Ricky Stator with an 80 Watt headlight. The light from the BD kit with the stock stator is a little weak.
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Old 04-05-2006, 01:13 PM   #12
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The Quicksilver carb was the best upgrade I did, could never get the stock carb setup right. The next was a high output Ricky Stator with an 80 Watt headlight. The light from the BD kit with the stock stator is a little weak.
Where can I get that stator?
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:11 PM   #13
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Yes, I have joined that dark side...I sold my Dakar and bought a BRP. The previous owner had let this XR650R sit for a while while he rode his KTM, so I would like to do a complete fluid change and service the carb to make sure everything is okay. Right now the bike starts very well and runs well with the throttle on but will idle only for a few seconds then quit. It also slightly sputtered a coulpe of times, nothing big though,(i'm being very picky) maybe just needs some good gas run through it. Any suggestions and help would be great in bringing my new BRP up to tip-top shape.
Congratulations on the bike. I just finished going through what you are starting. Yeah, you can get it running fairly well IF you really do a super job cleaning all those small passages and spend some time sorting out the jetting. Mine is running well now.

However, you can probably save yourself a ton of time and aggravation with the Edelbrock. If I had it to do over, Iíd have started there. I finally bit the bullet and the new Edelbrock just came in the other day along with a 12 Kg rear spring. Iím currently waiting for my new speedometer to come in then Iíll wrench everything and get the bike inspected.

If I counted my time on the stock carb at $30, the Edelbrock would have been cheaper... Changing the main jet isnít too bad but all the others require a lot more effort. The Edelbrock has a couple of exterior adjustment and thatís pretty much it from what I hear. A lot of guys say it comes ready out of the box, Iíll find out soon enough.

Some of the supposed benefits I have heard of is: Easy starting(!), better gas mileage, no peeing all over the bike, bike runs lying down so you can just pick it up and go after a fall, easy starting after the bike falls and you stall it, easy starting on non level ground, little more power (probably because itís easier to adjust), crisp response off idle with out a lag and it doesnít cut out on rough maneuvers; OH, did I mention easy starting?. The vast majority of owners love it and wouldnít thing about going back while the people that never used it appear to nay say it. I did a lot of research on this prior to plunking down $400, and the fact that I bought indicates that research. I pretty much covered the cost by downgrading my luggage budget by $350... See http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128969

If ya do decide on the Edelbrock Iíd recommend getting it here. http://www.barnumspro.com/


There are a bunch of resources for your new steed:

http://xr650r.us/
http://www.xr650r.net/nonepa.html
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...2&page=1&pp=15
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=xr650r+summer
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55171
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128969
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=XR650R
http://www.trailpilgrim.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1071
http://tardypizza.com/xr650r/index.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/n5nj/id2.html
http://www.xrdualsport.com/
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/650rmods.asp
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/uncork_brp/
http://xr650r.borynack.com/
http://www.xr650r.net/barnum.html
http://www.springtat.com/messageboar...c=94&hl=Xr650r
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2...88R0KCVP1XABP5

For dual sport, hereís some stuff I like...
http://207.234.141.72/index2/Equipme...le_mirror2.htm
http://www.renazco.com/
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-rmcycle/
http://www.rickystator.com/pages/XR650stator.html
http://www.animalhousedesigns.net/products.htm
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126162
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126162
http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/03DualSport/05index.html
http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16412
http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16412
http://www.barnumspro.com/
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...?t=89478&pp=15

You might want to look into the XR650R Group for some good info.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/XR650R/

Let me know if ya need more young Padawan... LOL...
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:27 PM   #14
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ah minor correction the BRP isnt the dark side, its from the land of the rising sun, so.......
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Old 04-05-2006, 09:57 PM   #15
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Congratulations on the bike. I just finished going through what you are starting. Yeah, you can get it running fairly well IF you really do a super job cleaning all those small passages and spend some time sorting out the jetting. Mine is running well now.

However, you can probably save yourself a ton of time and aggravation with the Edelbrock. If I had it to do over, Iíd have started there. I finally bit the bullet and the new Edelbrock just came in the other day along with a 12 Kg rear spring. Iím currently waiting for my new speedometer to come in then Iíll wrench everything and get the bike inspected.

If I counted my time on the stock carb at $30, the Edelbrock would have been cheaper... Changing the main jet isnít too bad but all the others require a lot more effort. The Edelbrock has a couple of exterior adjustment and thatís pretty much it from what I hear. A lot of guys say it comes ready out of the box, Iíll find out soon enough.

Some of the supposed benefits I have heard of is: Easy starting(!), better gas mileage, no peeing all over the bike, bike runs lying down so you can just pick it up and go after a fall, easy starting after the bike falls and you stall it, easy starting on non level ground, little more power (probably because itís easier to adjust), crisp response off idle with out a lag and it doesnít cut out on rough maneuvers; OH, did I mention easy starting?. The vast majority of owners love it and wouldnít thing about going back while the people that never used it appear to nay say it. I did a lot of research on this prior to plunking down $400, and the fact that I bought indicates that research. I pretty much covered the cost by downgrading my luggage budget by $350... See http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128969

If ya do decide on the Edelbrock Iíd recommend getting it here. http://www.barnumspro.com/


There are a bunch of resources for your new steed:

http://xr650r.us/
http://www.xr650r.net/nonepa.html
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...2&page=1&pp=15
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=xr650r+summer
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55171
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=xr650r
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128969
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ghlight=XR650R
http://www.trailpilgrim.com/forums/s...ead.php?t=1071
http://tardypizza.com/xr650r/index.html
http://mysite.verizon.net/n5nj/id2.html
http://www.xrdualsport.com/
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/650rmods.asp
http://www.4strokes.com/tech/honda/uncork_brp/
http://xr650r.borynack.com/
http://www.xr650r.net/barnum.html
http://www.springtat.com/messageboar...c=94&hl=Xr650r
http://www.helminc.com/helm/product2...88R0KCVP1XABP5

For dual sport, hereís some stuff I like...
http://207.234.141.72/index2/Equipme...le_mirror2.htm
http://www.renazco.com/
http://www.homestead.com/prosites-rmcycle/
http://www.rickystator.com/pages/XR650stator.html
http://www.animalhousedesigns.net/products.htm
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126162
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=126162
http://www.wolfmanluggage.com/03DualSport/05index.html
http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16412
http://www.aerostich.com/product.php?productid=16412
http://www.barnumspro.com/
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...?t=89478&pp=15

You might want to look into the XR650R Group for some good info.

http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/XR650R/

Let me know if ya need more young Padawan... LOL...
Wow! Thanks for all those links, there are a lot of good stuff there..especially for dual sporting which I will be doing...One more thing, what would you suggest for a nice pipe that is not too loud?(neighbors)

Until next time, my Sith Lord...
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