23-211

Tugrik · 02-14-2003, 10:40 AM

I'm not sure what the best forum to put this one in... but as it's potential-wreck related, thought it might be here. I hope the mods move it if this isn't the right place.

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I was headed home at about 10pm after eating out with friends. While taking the tunnel-ramp from 17s to 85s in San Jose, an idjit in a red car flicked a half-used cigarette out the window. It expertly caught an upward flick of air, cleared my windshield and impacted on my visor in an amazing shower of sparks. Suck!

Had this been a few years ago when I was still a nervous newbie, this could have sucked really bad. Road debris doesn't phase me any more, though... so I just got pissed instead of weaving or wrecking. I gave them a flick of the brights to let them know I was back there (the GL18 has stupidly bright brights), but nothing more; I behaved myself.

Then I remembered... hey... I can read the license plate. I mentally jotted it down and then rolled past them at speed, to simply get away from them in case they were in a mood. When I got home I called 311 (the non emergency number) and got lost in the phone-maze. I logged in and emailed the SJPD instead using their 'cybercop system'.

They just called me back (3 days later) and took a report. They take this pretty seriously, it seems. It's called a "23-211" -- throwing objects from a moving vehicle. Extra happy special penalties for it being a lit cigarette, since the Bay Area has a problem with these jerks lighting the freeways on fire every summer. They took the plate number and my poor description (red car, sedan) and said they'll go give this fellow a talking-to.

----

The reason for the post: The SJPD and highway cops say the same thing: See a cig-flick? report it. Definately. Get the license #, a desc of the car, and if you can -- a desc of the driver. If you have a cell phone, pull over and dial 911 (because 311 doesn't work from a cel) and ask to talk to the CHP if it was on a highway, or the city cops if on a surface street. Report it right away, and if they can they'll pull the person over while they're still on the road.

They're trying to crack down on this behavior while it's still green and wet outside, long before it gets all brown and tinderboxy. They welcome the calls. Tell 'em it's a 23-211 if you're in California.

ShaftEd · 02-14-2003, 12:47 PM

Shitbags using the road system as their personal ashtray really pisses me off. I've been hit numerous times in a shower of sparks. Go get those fuckers!

nomiles · 02-14-2003, 01:16 PM

The whole world is an ashtray to a smoker, fuckers!

freaking RT · 02-14-2003, 01:59 PM

butts are biodegradable. relax fellas.

:smoke :smoke :smoke :smoke

note to self: another reason NOT to live in CA

ShaftEd · 02-14-2003, 02:05 PM

Hey, You keep your butts of my faceshield and we'll be fine.

Eric The Red · 02-14-2003, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Said ShaftEd:
Hey, You keep your butts of my faceshield and we'll be fine.

turkish · 02-14-2003, 05:20 PM

Quote:

Said freakingRTrider:
butts are biodegradable. relax fellas.

:smoke :smoke :smoke :smoke

Yeah, so are forests full of wood ash.

Dick.

Rubber Cow · 02-14-2003, 08:15 PM

Unfortunately this has happend to me a few times in the South Bay.
I was hit by a lit but in Los Gatos about twelve years ago. This was summer time and the height of fire season. The damn thing hit my chest and dropped to my crotch. Luckily I was able to grab it before it did any damage. At the next long stoplight I stopped next to the convertible Mercedes and asked the woman if her car had an ashtray. "Of course it does!" she responded.
"Great !" I said. "So the next time you finish a fucking cigarette you'll remember where not to throw it!" With that I tossed the lit butt back into her car and took off.
I know I know not the nicest thing to do...but it sure felt great!

Cheers,
Jorge

freaking RT · 02-15-2003, 03:16 AM

dayum, I guess you CA types really freak out if a beer can gets tossed.

What the hell happens if you miss the truck bed??? :lol1

gypsy77360 · 02-15-2003, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Said freakingRTrider:
dayum, I guess you CA types really freak out if a beer can gets tossed.

What the hell happens if you miss the truck bed??? :lol1

Tree-huggers !

Ostrich · 02-17-2003, 10:13 AM

Tug,

That is interesting to know.

dizave · 02-17-2003, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Said Rubber Cow:
With that I tossed the lit butt back into her car and took off.
I know I know not the nicest thing to do...but it sure felt great!

That's awesome! Why dirty your ashtray when there is this nice outside world you can toss your trash into.

I think the roads would be safer if everyone was forced to ride a motorcycle for at least a year in order to get their license.

outwest · 02-17-2003, 11:32 AM

Can you imagine how bad our already littered roads would be if everyone had the attitude that butts or any paper for that matter is biodegradable. Many forrest and rangeland fires have been started and folks have lost everything they owned because of these inconsiderate people. Outwest

eric_the_bald · 02-17-2003, 12:05 PM

Said Freaking RT Rider:
"butts are biodegradable. relax fellas."

Maybe for those tuff guys still puffing Lucky Strikes.
As for the rest, they'll still be there in five years.

When you come to Dry-as-Hell Colorado, keep 'em inside.

zouch · 02-18-2003, 12:08 PM

fiberglass filters are biodegradable? i think not,... not even in VA.

and in case you missed it, that doesn't address the issue related to the fact that most of these things come flying out the window while still burning,... let's ignore the fact that your trash will still be around for your great-grandchildren...
cheers!
e

Quote:

Said freakingRTrider:
butts are biodegradable. relax fellas.

:smoke :smoke :smoke :smoke

note to self: another reason NOT to live in CA

02-14-2003, 10:40 AM	#1
Tugrik ^OP Big Blue Adventurer Joined: Feb 2002 Location: Valley of Quartz, CA Oddometer: 882	23-211 I'm not sure what the best forum to put this one in... but as it's potential-wreck related, thought it might be here. I hope the mods move it if this isn't the right place. --------- I was headed home at about 10pm after eating out with friends. While taking the tunnel-ramp from 17s to 85s in San Jose, an idjit in a red car flicked a half-used cigarette out the window. It expertly caught an upward flick of air, cleared my windshield and impacted on my visor in an amazing shower of sparks. Suck! Had this been a few years ago when I was still a nervous newbie, this could have sucked really bad. Road debris doesn't phase me any more, though... so I just got pissed instead of weaving or wrecking. I gave them a flick of the brights to let them know I was back there (the GL18 has stupidly bright brights), but nothing more; I behaved myself. Then I remembered... hey... I can read the license plate. I mentally jotted it down and then rolled past them at speed, to simply get away from them in case they were in a mood. When I got home I called 311 (the non emergency number) and got lost in the phone-maze. I logged in and emailed the SJPD instead using their 'cybercop system'. They just called me back (3 days later) and took a report. They take this pretty seriously, it seems. It's called a "23-211" -- throwing objects from a moving vehicle. Extra happy special penalties for it being a lit cigarette, since the Bay Area has a problem with these jerks lighting the freeways on fire every summer. They took the plate number and my poor description (red car, sedan) and said they'll go give this fellow a talking-to. ---- The reason for the post: The SJPD and highway cops say the same thing: See a cig-flick? report it. Definately. Get the license #, a desc of the car, and if you can -- a desc of the driver. If you have a cell phone, pull over and dial 911 (because 311 doesn't work from a cel) and ask to talk to the CHP if it was on a highway, or the city cops if on a surface street. Report it right away, and if they can they'll pull the person over while they're still on the road. They're trying to crack down on this behavior while it's still green and wet outside, long before it gets all brown and tinderboxy. They welcome the calls. Tell 'em it's a 23-211 if you're in California.

02-14-2003, 12:47 PM	#2
ShaftEd Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2001 Location: San Diego, CA USA Oddometer: 2,906	Excellent Tugrik! Shitbags using the road system as their personal ashtray really pisses me off. I've been hit numerous times in a shower of sparks. Go get those fuckers!

02-14-2003, 01:16 PM	#3
nomiles Sledge-o-matic Joined: Jul 2002 Location: Bay Area ~ NorCal Oddometer: 3,994	The whole world is an ashtray to a smoker, fuckers! __________________ Everybody is someone else's weirdo.

02-14-2003, 01:59 PM	#4
freaking RT will golf for food Joined: Nov 2001 Location: just outside Richmond, VA Oddometer: 27,456	butts are biodegradable. relax fellas. :smoke :smoke :smoke :smoke note to self: another reason NOT to live in CA __________________ IBA#10787 “We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the constitution.” – Abraham Lincoln "Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens". -Anonymous WV VA Good Eats Map

02-14-2003, 08:15 PM	#8
Rubber Cow GS Dork Joined: Jul 2001 Location: Aloha... yes, Aloha, Oregon Oddometer: 5,299	Unfortunately this has happend to me a few times in the South Bay. I was hit by a lit but in Los Gatos about twelve years ago. This was summer time and the height of fire season. The damn thing hit my chest and dropped to my crotch. Luckily I was able to grab it before it did any damage. At the next long stoplight I stopped next to the convertible Mercedes and asked the woman if her car had an ashtray. "Of course it does!" she responded. "Great !" I said. "So the next time you finish a fucking cigarette you'll remember where not to throw it!" With that I tossed the lit butt back into her car and took off. I know I know not the nicest thing to do...but it sure felt great! Cheers, Jorge __________________ "He had that rare weird electricity about him--that extremely wild and heavy presence that you only see in a person who has abandoned all hope of ever behaving"normally"." HST-RIP "Woof, woof woof woof ...woof woof!!!!!!!!!" Cricket the Dog-RIP

02-14-2003, 02:05 PM	#5
ShaftEd Beastly Adventurer Joined: Nov 2001 Location: San Diego, CA USA Oddometer: 2,906	Hey, You keep your butts of my faceshield and we'll be fine.

02-15-2003, 03:16 AM	#9
freaking RT will golf for food Joined: Nov 2001 Location: just outside Richmond, VA Oddometer: 27,456	dayum, I guess you CA types really freak out if a beer can gets tossed. What the hell happens if you miss the truck bed??? :lol1 __________________ IBA#10787 “We, the people, are the rightful masters of both congress and the courts - not to overthrow the constitution, but to overthrow men who pervert the constitution.” – Abraham Lincoln "Fathom the odd hypocrisy that Obama wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens". -Anonymous WV VA Good Eats Map

02-17-2003, 10:13 AM	#11
Ostrich Jaded and Happy Joined: Jun 2002 Location: Fresneck or Bust Baby! Oddometer: 8,731	Tug, That is interesting to know. __________________ If you use Geico watch out. The buyout for my car was way below any objective figure (KBB, NADA, etc.). Also, I could not get in touch with anyone on the first try during a claim resolution. Just because it's a zoo out there doesn't mean you have to view it from a cage! Don't be an impulse buyer... afterall you have time.. Ostrich screwed with this post 02-17-2003 at 11:36 AM

02-17-2003, 11:32 AM	#13
outwest Western Adventurer Joined: Feb 2003 Location: Boulder,Colo.U.S.A. Oddometer: 43	Can you imagine how bad our already littered roads would be if everyone had the attitude that butts or any paper for that matter is biodegradable. Many forrest and rangeland fires have been started and folks have lost everything they owned because of these inconsiderate people. Outwest __________________ Not all who wander are lost.

02-17-2003, 12:05 PM	#14
eric_the_bald Gnome Joined: Feb 2002 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Oddometer: 388	Use your D* ahstray! Said Freaking RT Rider: "butts are biodegradable. relax fellas." Maybe for those tuff guys still puffing Lucky Strikes. As for the rest, they'll still be there in five years. When you come to Dry-as-Hell Colorado, keep 'em inside. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ** Don't screw around with old folks, They didn't get old by bein' Stupid!

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