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Old 04-26-2006, 02:49 AM   #16
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My big bearing only went because the bike has been used in the desert a couple of times plus jet washing. New one I fully expect to last for a very long time, should do if you look after the cush drive and don't jet wash it.

Mines a 2001 enduro, do the '05 adventures not have them then ?

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Old 04-26-2006, 08:04 AM   #17
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Old 04-26-2006, 12:08 PM   #18
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going to bearing supply in a minute, its #28 in the drawing which is a strange wide size
l have pressure washed it but always try and keep it away from the hubs, but l have done alot of water crossing ( thanks to tom aka HCaveman) and it does have 11500 miles on it
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:13 PM   #19
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going to bearing supply in a minute, its #28 in the drawing which is a strange wide size
l have pressure washed it but always try and keep it away from the hubs, but l have done alot of water crossing ( thanks to tom aka HCaveman) and it does have 11500 miles on it
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28 0625032057 BALL BEARING 3205.B.2RSR $87.33



Considering this (2003 model):

1 58410001544 REAR WHEEL CPL. DAMPED 2.5X18" $440.80
2 58410010044 REAR WHEEL HUB DAMPED CPL.2001 $192.57

it doesn't seem like a good deal...
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:23 PM   #20
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so l found a replacement

the bearing is marked 6205 RSR not 2RS, 6205 2RS is a single ball bearing in the wheel but the one in the sprocket carrier is a double ball bearing but it has the same # 6205 but marked with RSR.
the bearing house said this should be # 5205 2RS which was $33 dollars including UPS shipping to my door tomorrow
l will have to keep my eye on it and see how it lasts

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Purchased from BDI part # EBC 5205 2RS
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:35 PM   #21
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Old 09-27-2006, 11:47 AM   #22
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so l found a replacement

the bearing is marked 6205 RSR not 2RS, 6205 2RS is a single ball bearing in the wheel but the one in the sprocket carrier is a double ball bearing but it has the same # 6205 but marked with RSR.
the bearing house said this should be # 5205 2RS which was $33 dollars including UPS shipping to my door tomorrow
l will have to keep my eye on it and see how it lasts

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Purchased from BDI part # EBC 5205 2RS
Is the above "but it has the same# 6205" coming from your reading of the fiche or from the actual removed OEM bearings. I can only guess the later as the fiche is quite clear on the difference.

As far as I understand it ... the KTM/OEM bearings are made by FAG and -2RSR is just their equivalent of -2RS.

The wheel bearings (Qty: 2) are FAG 6205 2RSRC3. The C3 is important. I believe it specifies the clearance inside the bearing, for a press fit, it's important to get it correct else the bearing could be too tight. It may well be the default though.

The sprocket support bearing is FAG 3205.B.2RSR. The middle B is I believe the contact angle of the races but I think B is the standard. 3205 is the European equivalent of a US 5205.

So a 5205-2RS should fit the sprocket support and 6205-2RS will fit the wheels with the caveat about the C3 internal clearance.

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm incorrect on any of this.

I usually get KBC (korean) wheel bearings which are a good price/quality compramise vs the more expensive Japanese bearings and the maybe dubious Chinese bearings (though I think bearings are such a commodity item these days that the poor Chinese quality is more of a historical artifact). $5 each for a 6205-2RS. The sprocket support 5205-2RS is harder, KBC doesn't make double row and the prices seems to vary wildly depending where you look (CBR has them for $24.00, Japanese KYK brand but their $15.00 price for each 6205 wheel bearing is expensive).

It is amazing that the complete sprocket support (with bearing) is less than the cost of the replacement bearing (via KTM).

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:07 PM   #23
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I just looked it up, the 5205 is a Double Row Angular Contact bearing,... Bore 25mm, OD 52 mm, width 20.6 mm.
It has a static load rating of 3,280 lbs, vs 1,750 lbs for a single row (6205)
Bore and OD are the same, width is wider on the 5205 to accomodate the second row of balls.
It was likely spec'd with this as the torque on the sprocket could tear up a single row in a hurry, especially with a floating rubber carrier.
I would get a rubber seal on both sides, if available.
The "C" numbers with respect the the 6000 series of bearings, indicates internal clearance differences. They assort them at the factory as they are measured, as some industry will demand certain clearance.
A C3 is catagorized as "standard" clearance. That number would not be important for this application.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:30 PM   #24
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check to see if it's on Loaded's site
LOL, the answer was in the 3rd post. That's where I got mine a while back for $42.

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Old 09-27-2006, 04:39 PM   #25
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I just looked it up, the 5205 is a Double Row Angular Contact bearing,... Bore 25mm, OD 52 mm, width 20.6 mm.
It has a static load rating of 3,280 lbs, vs 1,750 lbs for a single row (6205)
Bore and OD are the same, width is wider on the 5205 to accomodate the second row of balls.
Bentspoke. And this spec (for the 5205-2RS) is functionally the same as the Euro 3205.B.2RSR. I believe I'm correct on the 'B' designation being the standard/default and therefore not particularly important.
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Old 09-27-2006, 04:51 PM   #26
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any one have a # for a bearing that goes in the sprocket carrier on the chain side at the rear
the dealer wanted $89 for it, is this correct or can l get it cheaper and a bearing shop
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I went to a local bearing house and got one for about $35 IIRC. I don't think it was much over $80 or $90 for all of the rear wheel bearings
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:08 PM   #27
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When you get the new one pop a seal off one side with a small screwdriver and pack the crap out of it with your favorite waterproof grease. That is a dirtbike trick to help seal out the water and crap.
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Old 09-27-2006, 05:49 PM   #28
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Bentspoke. And this spec (for the 5205-2RS) is functionally the same as the Euro 3205.B.2RSR. I believe I'm correct on the 'B' designation being the standard/default and therefore not particularly important.
My book shows a A as a Conrad in the 500 series, so that would mean default.
The B is listed as 40deg contact angle. It looks like the A's have a 30 deg contact angle. They may only make most of them one way or the other so those internal dimensions probably do not matter on the user end.
Many comapanies drop or change the first digit, adopting the somewhat universal series number of the second, and bore code of the last 2.
Multiply the last 2 digits times 5, that gives you the bore. That X5 formula works for most bearings in the 5000 and 6000 series. 6003 and below it does not apply.
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Old 09-29-2006, 03:00 AM   #29
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LOL, the answer was in the 3rd post. That's where I got mine a while back for $42.

http://www.stenhouseracing.com/
http://stenhouseracing.com/shop/inde...2671def45cde87
thanks for the reminder!

yeah! this looks like it will help 'shit' the bearings...


and so does this!
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Old 11-16-2006, 07:44 PM   #30
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I went to a local bearing house and got one for about $35 IIRC. I don't think it was much over $80 or $90 for all of the rear wheel bearings
In case this helps anyone else I just replaced mine. I stumbled across Pacific NW Bearing (just down the road from me in Springfield Oregon).


2x KBC 6205-2RS $3.72 each
1x SMT 5205-2RS $13.84 each
1x seal 32x52x7 B $3.50 each

shipping: $4.05: total $28.83.
Can't recommend the owner, Steve Stormont enough, answered lots of e-mails. KBC is korean, I've used them on many bikes. SMT is Japanese.
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