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Old 07-09-2008, 06:47 PM   #15076
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I just bought a new ‘07 DR650SE and am getting ready for the 600 mile oil change. The parts guy at the dealer sold me two drain plug gaskets and said I should drain the engine sump and the other plug (also on the crankcase) drains the oil filter housing or the oil radiator, he wasn’t sure which. I have the Suzuki factory service manual and they only talk about the one drain plug in the changing the oil instructions. I’ve noted on these boards people complaining that the crankcase is over-filled when they put in the Suzuki-prescribed quantity of oil and you should only put in two quarts to keep from over-filling. Could it be the over-filling occurs because not all the oil was drained when pulling only the single plug? Should I follow the manual’s directions or the parts guy’s? If you pull both plugs, any danger of losing the prime in the oilpump with subsequent disasterous results?

Also: Is Dual-Star still in business? I’ve tried calling them for two days to order a skid plate and center stand; keep getting a recording that says they’re either closed or too busy to talk to me, leave a message, then the recording says the mail box is full, can’t leave a message, call later. Have called later for two days now, is getting tiresome. Is this typical of their customer interfacing? Any comments on their center stand and skid plate also appreciated. Thanks for your help in getting this old timer off to a good start with his new toy.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:18 PM   #15077
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Cruise Control

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Can anybody here tell me which throttle lock type cruise control works on my 2003 650?
Vista Cruise 7/8" Universal. I bought the wrong one the first time (single/dual cable) and could not make it work. I installed mine last week and have used it for 600 miles. Works great.

Regarding the cramp buster. I've used the large one 6000 miles (before the cruise control). No interference with my pro-bend guards.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:35 PM   #15078
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The parts guy at the dealer sold me two drain plug gaskets
One is for the sump. To drain the oil. Did you get an oil filter?

The second is for the timing mark cover - you use it to set the engine position so you can adjust the valves.

I reused the old gaskets .. I keep 4 spare new ones (amonst other things like oil filterS, etc) ... take a look at them when they come off the bike and see if you can trust them again.

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Dual-Star scenter stand
Unobtainium. Don't bother. As in not avalible for the last few years, not likely to be avalible ever? Try SWMototeck (IIRC).
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:38 PM   #15079
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Is Dual-Star still in business? I’ve tried calling them for two days to order a skid plate and center stand; keep getting a recording that says they’re either closed or too busy to talk to me, leave a message, then the recording says the mail box is full, can’t leave a message, call later. Have called later for two days now, is getting tiresome. Is this typical of their customer interfacing? Any comments on their center stand and skid plate also appreciated. Thanks for your help in getting this old timer off to a good start with his new toy.
I had the same luck when trying to call Dual Star a few months ago. Keep trying, you will get thru eventually. The products they produce are generally good quality, but their customer relations leave a lot to be desired. They have a reputation for listing items online and taking orders for things they don't have on hand. They will take your money, then place you on a waiting list until they have enough orders in from others to manufacture a batch. If it were me, I'd call and confirm that the item wanted is in stock BEFORE sending them a dime.
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:39 PM   #15080
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Unobtainium. Don't bother. As in not avalible for the last few years, not likely to be avalible ever? Try SWMototeck (IIRC).
Twisted Throttle carries that one, IIRC...
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Old 07-09-2008, 07:47 PM   #15081
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Originally Posted by Errandboy
I just bought a new ‘07 DR650SE and am getting ready for the 600 mile oil change. The parts guy at the dealer sold me two drain plug gaskets and said I should drain the engine sump and the other plug (also on the crankcase) drains the oil filter housing or the oil radiator, he wasn’t sure which. I have the Suzuki factory service manual and they only talk about the one drain plug in the changing the oil instructions. I’ve noted on these boards people complaining that the crankcase is over-filled when they put in the Suzuki-prescribed quantity of oil and you should only put in two quarts to keep from over-filling. Could it be the over-filling occurs because not all the oil was drained when pulling only the single plug? Should I follow the manual’s directions or the parts guy’s? If you pull both plugs, any danger of losing the prime in the oilpump with subsequent disasterous results?

Also: Is Dual-Star still in business? I’ve tried calling them for two days to order a skid plate and center stand; keep getting a recording that says they’re either closed or too busy to talk to me, leave a message, then the recording says the mail box is full, can’t leave a message, call later. Have called later for two days now, is getting tiresome. Is this typical of their customer interfacing? Any comments on their center stand and skid plate also appreciated. Thanks for your help in getting this old timer off to a good start with his new toy.
I would perform the oil & filter change just like it states in the Suzuki service manual. If your bike is under factory warranty, follow the manual. As for Dual Star, I have heard bad things about their customer service or lack of. I bought a center stand from Twisted Throttle (SW Motech). Very happy with it. Good luck with your DR
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:05 PM   #15082
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Thanks for the replies. Guess I'll go for the Motek stand, maybe a Utah Sport skid plate. (I got the oil filter.) It's great that you guys save people from re-inventing the wheel.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:27 PM   #15083
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Errand -

> Should I follow the manual’s directions or the parts guy’s?

Geez. That's a no-brainer. I agree with others who say follow the service manual's instructions. And it does not matter if the bike is under warranty or not.

Regarding the aluminum sump gasket, I have never replaced one. Probably should, but I just haven't gotten around to it. Do not overtighten the sump plug, and you should be fine.

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Old 07-09-2008, 08:33 PM   #15084
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Rally -

> which throttle lock type cruise control works on my 2003 650?

I have an NEP throttle lock on my 2003 DR650. Works great but took some fabrication to make it fit.

I don't leave home with it :-).

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Old 07-09-2008, 08:38 PM   #15085
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Thanks for the replies. Guess I'll go for the Motek stand, maybe a Utah Sport skid plate. (I got the oil filter.) It's great that you guys save people from re-inventing the wheel.

I have the Utah Sport skidplate on my 06.
kind of a pain to mount intially but it has a slot for the drain plug so you shouldn't need to remove it too much.
very solid well built piece that looks like it will hold up to a lot of abuse.


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stay tuned, I will post in Ride Reports when we get back in a couple of weeks.
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Old 07-09-2008, 09:39 PM   #15086
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hey guys...

i'm in italy... do you know where i can find a cheap side racks for my dr... posted 2pages ago... 190$ are too much...

here ya go...

they are just aluminium so they are light...

i held them on with hose clamps and they held up just fine for 30,000km



fish

EDIT: they cost 10$ australian, about 23 eurocents..... lol
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Old 07-10-2008, 02:43 AM   #15087
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here ya go...

they are just aluminium so they are light...

i held them on with hose clamps and they held up just fine for 30,000km



fish

EDIT: they cost 10$ australian, about 23 eurocents..... lol
Sorry! have you a photo "zoomed"? so i can understand better...

but there you can claps a bag?
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Old 07-10-2008, 04:19 AM   #15088
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Dose any one know of a source thats cheaper than suzuki for throttle cables for the dr

thanks in advance for any help

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Old 07-10-2008, 06:25 AM   #15089
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Also: Is Dual-Star still in business? I’ve tried calling them for two days to order a skid plate and center stand; keep getting a recording [/quote]

I, like almost everyone else on this Thread tried to do business with Dual-Star. Met with the same results. I made my purchase elsewhere as I would recomend everyone else to do. Think about it, they will not answer the phone when you are trying to buy something, what make you think they will answer when and if you have a problem with something they sold you. There are many vendors out there that care about our needs as Dr owners and will assist us before and after the sale. There is no reason to put up with irresponsible business people (I use the term loosely) such as Dual-Star.
If you are looking for a center stand, I got mine from Twisted Throttle, they answered the telephone the first time I called, knew the part number from memory and had it to my door in 5 days. Pleasent to do business with, knew what they were talking about and actually wanted my business,(a sharp contrast to Dual-Star).
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Old 07-10-2008, 07:47 AM   #15090
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I have a stock seat off my 2008 DR for sale cheap. PM me if you are interested.

Hey Brewcelero, are you there???? I've PM'd and no answer....also no further postings from you.

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